BREAKING: Prohm notches first commitment

Cydkar

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To the people that don't like using a scholarship on him. Just curious what you would have done with the scholarship? I don't see the point in banking it as we still have 1 (maybe 2 if the Greek doesn't return) to bank, we were a little short on frontline depth, and we will have plenty of scholarships open next year to fill with top end talent. I guess I'm just not seeing any downside to this.

Other than him robbing a Burger King there isn't much downside. What are the odds of that happneing twice?
 

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You are saying its a waste for this kid to be on scholarship if he doesn't play at all this year, but we should give it to a transfer who has to sit out next year and tie up a scholarship despite not being able to play. Think about that for a second.

Pretty sure they didn't give him an offer just to have a body on the bench. They feel like he can actually help the team.

My point is that it's unlikely the play we get from him is very good.


We could literally sign a 4'5 dude from India and 80% of posters would be ecstatic.

The staff isn't infallible and acting like every commit is a slam dunk is just not my thing.

If this kid committed to Iowa this board would have a field day.
 
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My point is that it's unlikely the play we get from him is very good.


Wednesday could literally sign a 4'5 dude from India and 80% of posters would be ecstatic.

The stand isn't infallible and acting like every commit is a slam dunk is just not my thing
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Can he shoot?

And I don't think anyone said he was or is expecting him to be a slam dunk. Just that he adds some front court depth and could be a contributor. No one is expecting him to be a Big 12 POY
 

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My point is that it's unlikely the play we get from him is very good.


We could literally sign a 4'5 dude from India and 80% of posters would be ecstatic.

The stand isn't infallible and acting like every commit is a slam dunk is just not my thing.

It doesn't have to be good, it has to be servicable. We already have a GREAT core we just needed someone to help here and there when foul trouble and fatigue my arise.
 

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It doesn't have to be good, it has to be servicable. We already have a GREAT core we just needed someone to help here and there when foul trouble and fatigue my arise.

Why are we spending scholarships on guys we hope are serviceable in 3 years?
 

acgclone

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Short so you could understand...which you didn't.

So many people on here are smarter than our coach somehow.

We've got tons of scholarships and this a risk worth taking. Of course he may not pan out but every class has guys like that.

This is the key that a lot of people don't seem to understand. We have a minimum of 5 and possibly 7-8 more scholarships to fill in the next 11 months.

We're not going to land 5+ studs. You can afford to take a chance on a project, because he gives you some added depth in the front court immediately, and an extra practice body. Holding over more than one scholarship is absolutely pointless. Keep one in case a mid year or surprise transfer pops up (or someone reclassifies late). We get no bonus points for extra scholarships.

If he can't play at this level, you can encourage him to transfer down. That was one of Fred's keys to success, and it worked to keep your roster from accumulating dead weight that couldn't play at this level.

This situation, is a result of Fred's recruiting strategy and timing for leaving, not Prohm's fault.

All coaches get into a situation where you have a scholarship to burn, so you take a long shot. Fred took Tsalboris, KJ Bluford and Edozie. All fit into that same mold. They were surprise recruits that no one else at this level really wanted.

If we take more than 1-2 more projects in the next 12 months, then there may be cause for concern.
 

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It doesn't have to be good, it has to be servicable. We already have a GREAT core we just needed someone to help here and there when foul trouble and fatigue my arise.

Exactly. You don't have to be the next Lebron to come in and provide 5-10 min of all out effort in the event of some foul trouble.
 

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My point is that it's unlikely the play we get from him is very good.


We could literally sign a 4'5 dude from India and 80% of posters would be ecstatic.

The staff isn't infallible and acting like every commit is a slam dunk is just not my thing.

If this kid committed to Iowa this board would have a field day.

Again, if he's not good enough to get playing time, he will transfer and free up your precious 13th scholarship. Now if they sign 7 players like him next year, you'd have something to worry about.
 

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It's so dumb when people say this. That's like telling someone to run for president because they complained or criticized Bush or Obama.

It WOULD be like that, if people were criticizing the job Bush or Obama did as president a year before they even took office.
 

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Again, if he's not good enough to get playing time, he will transfer and free up your precious 13th scholarship. Now if they sign 7 players like him next year, you'd have something to worry about.

He's not transferring after this year no matter what. I'll bet $100.

And a scholarship is a scholarship. Having a lot doesn't mean it's a good idea to sign anyone who will commit.

I'm not a hater or a negative Nancy, it's just something I'm skeptical of.

Hire a mid major coach and the first thing he does is offer a guy coming off an injury who never had any P5 offers and wasn't good enough for UNI or Iowa.

I'm very optimistic about Prohm but not this move.

But maybe he's the next Seth Tuttle and this gets bumped in 4 years and I look dumb.
 

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Can someone interpret the last 2-3 pages for me?

There's so many posts from people on ignore that it's very disjointed.
 

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Based on this reaction for a borderline scholarship but in a year we have quite a few open, the internet might break the first time we **** a game down our leg with Prohm at the helm.
 

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Why are we spending scholarships on guys we hope are serviceable in 3 years?

Aren't scholarships a yearly renewal? I am pretty sure they are. If he doesn't pan out they will just over recruit him - that's how things are done in big boy basketball.
 

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I have only skimmed the responses in this, so I apologize if my thoughts are repetitive.

First, I am thrilled that Prohm and TJ investigated Brady and decided he was worth a scholarship. All these armchair recruiting experts on CF drive me nuts - who are you to determine who should/should not get a scholarship to play for the Cyclones? Give the kid a chance to get in here and prove himself before you make a decision on his worth to the team!

Second, I'm sure others have mentioned this, but there are other examples of kids that were under-recruited for one reason or another that ultimately ended up contributing a great deal. Wes Johnson & Jared Homan are good ISU examples. Even Doug McDermott wasn't all that highly recruited as a Rivals 3-star out of high school. His own dad didn't think he was worthy of a power-5 scholarship offer at the time.

Celebrate that he has chosen to be a Cyclone, and give him a chance to surprise you.
 

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He's not transferring after this year no matter what. I'll bet $100.

And a scholarship is a scholarship. Having a lot doesn't mean it's a good idea to sign anyone who will commit.

I'm not a hater or a negative Nancy, it's just something I'm skeptical of.

Hire a mid major coach and the first thing he does is offer a guy coming off an injury who never had any P5 offers and wasn't good enough for UNI or Iowa.

I'm very optimistic about Prohm but not this move.

But maybe he's the next Seth Tuttle and this gets bumped in 4 years and I look dumb.

It won't take 4 years. Your decision to be overly skeptical and petty in this thread looks dumb now.
 

acgclone

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Also, for the record, in an interview with Alex Halstead, Ernst said he's 6'9" now.
 

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Why are we spending scholarships on guys we hope are serviceable in 3 years?

We gave him a 1 year scholarship. 1 year. If we have 3 schollies there is no way we use all 3. This was literally a no risk proposition. Get a guy that was getting legit interest before he got hurt if he pans out, great, if not we both move on. It is a win win, we are in a position to "gamble" he needed someone to take a chance on him. Banking would do nothing unless you legitimately think we can get 3 good mid year transfers. Plus we have a decent 6'8 guy for our scout team.
 
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