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rholtgraves

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Man some people are in serious denial about Pollard.
 

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Again, let's not kid ourselves that Fred didn't want this out there. Those types of sources don't talk unless Fred is ok with it. And if it is true, that's a good thing.

But fred is hurting Iowa state basketball with this. He probably should have waited until prohm failed to air his dirty laundry.
 

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Didn't JP try to get rid of Fennelly a few years ago?
 

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Again, let's not kid ourselves that Fred didn't want this out there. Those types of sources don't talk unless Fred is ok with it. And if it is true, that's a good thing.

But fred is hurting Iowa state basketball with this. He probably should have waited until prohm failed to air his dirty laundry.
This times 10. Great point.
 

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I hope JP is gone by next year.
 

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Is this reporting news? Just seems like there are innuendos which lead to an agenda?
“I don’t think Jamie was sad at all to see Fred go,” a source said. “I think there was some jealousy there.”

"I don't think" and "I think" sounds like pure speculation. I am more concerned about some of the things that are can be confirmed in the article.

The rumor mongering within the Athletic Department concerned me when everyone had a source and a conspiracy theory during the weeks we were held hostage by the Bulls. If nothing else, these rumors add to the sense that there is a great deal of discord within the department that is not productive and beyond the point of normal disgruntlement.
 

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I was having a nice little Wednesday before reading this... **** **** ****.

When we're hiring our next AD, I'm submitting my resume. The first order of business when hired will be to rent a Brinks truck and drive to Fred's new house in Chicago to get him back. He will be happily paid a astronomical sum of money, players will be treated first class, season ticket prices will go up, and we will win an NCAA championship.

This isn't rocket surgery.
 

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I actually think it helps Prohm bc it gives him ammunition for getting what he wants for the program. the only thing it hurts is Pollard and I'm perfectly fine with that
 

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I've read all the responses and no one has pointed out that Fred interviewed with the Warriors. He's wanted out for some time now, he didn't just go after his NBA "Bulls dream job."
Fred never formally interviewed with GS. He talked casually on the phone with the President and the president got the feeling that Fred was happy where he was and it would take a lot for him to leave ISU. That was as far as that went with GS.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/iowa-state/basketball-mens/2014/10/08/fred-hoiberg-iowa-state-nba-golden-state-warriors-coach/16932621/
 

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"I don't think" and "I think" sounds like pure speculation. I am more concerned about some of the things that are can be confirmed in the article.

The rumor mongering within the Athletic Department concerned me when everyone had a source and a conspiracy theory during the weeks we were held hostage by the Bulls. If nothing else, these rumors add to the sense that there is a great deal of discord within the department that is not productive and beyond the point of normal disgruntlement.

I'd say Rhoads and Pollard get along just fine!
 

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I'm having a hard time figuring out why people are giving props to Hines for writing this...
1- It isn't good for Iowa State
2- He doesn't list any actual sources
3- It's almost 4 months after Fred left

But hey, people will believe anything they read on the internet....

Hines' job is not to promote Iowa State in an only-positive light. He is a journalist paid to report news. This seems news-worthy to me. Obviously, it may impact his ability to get inside the way he has in the past. So he did it at risk to his personal career. Why would he report it if he did not believe it?

BTW, as I posted earlier, this is not some fly-by-night website or blog where I would agree with you that you shouldn't believe everything you read. It's a long-time respected newspaper that has standards for reporting and credibility.
 

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I too am a little skeptical of the article - seems pretty sensationalized to me. Ballroom incident seems overblown. Without anybody showing their identity, saying "near double digit" anonymous people sounded off with the supposedly same thing seems sketchy to me as well. Of course nobody wants to give up their identity, but I don't think this holds much water until the accusers can publicly answer questions.

I really don't think we were sold a line about Hoiberg to the NBA - I don't think there is anything that could have prevented that move. It was about the opportunity, not moving on.

Will be interesting to see what JP does for damage control, and what Hoiberg will have to say about it.

For those saying the ballroom thing is sensationalized or overblown. What I took from it was that other Big 12 schools DO pay for the rooms in that situation, and we didn't.
 

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If it was given to him, by a source, then it is something he can share as news.
I know that you think we don't understand the complicated world of journalism, and I'm sure you're right. But he is reporting somebody's opinion, not necessarily fact. So you can call it good journalism or not, but the innuendos are very strong in there. And I'll say again, Hines appears to be a solid dude, this article seems very strange if in fact he's been writing it for 3 years.
 

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JP is a penny-pincher. He never covered up sexual abuses, involved in shady recruiting practices, covered up drug tests, etc... He's probably cheaper than a $3 suit but HIS boss can discuss that with him.

I want us to be able to spend like kentucky and kansas but we can't so somehow JP has to find more of a middle ground to smartly fund the programs and NOT micro-manage the programs. Deciding to drop $10K on (IMHO stupid) hotel rooms is immaterial. Cheaping out on tickets to coaches and wives is something a bean-counter does. None of this is necessarily a black-eye but JP does need to free up the money at times it seems.
 

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For those saying the ballroom thing is sensationalized or overblown. What I took from it was that other Big 12 schools DO pay for the rooms in that situation, and we didn't.
I think that this is one of many things missing from the story. If you're going to trash a man's reputation based on these "facts", then follow up with some comparisons to programs in our budget range.
 

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Hines is using the hotel "debacle" is one example. Where there is smoke, there is usually fire.

If thats how Pollard treats back to back B12 tourney champs, imagine the crappy motel our football team has to stay at.
 

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T he's been able for us to accomplish $160,000,000 in facility upgrades in the past 10 years.

Are these facilities "monuments" to the athletic director or facilities for coaches, players and fans?


If the athletic department didn't want to pay for rooms why didn't they coordinate travel arrangements better so that the team checked out and went directly to the airport for their flight home.
 
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this is the kind of reporting that will land travis a much bigger job than the ames trib. he's the best sports reporter they've had there in 30+ years.
 

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I know that you think we don't understand the complicated world of journalism, and I'm sure you're right. But he is reporting somebody's opinion, not necessarily fact. So you can call it good journalism or not, but the innuendos are very strong in there. And I'll say again, Hines appears to be a solid dude, this article seems very strange if in fact he's been writing it for 3 years.

Does it matter if its their opinion? The important part is that members within the basketball program felt poorly treated by the AD and it probably at least contributed to Hoiberg's decision to leave so soon. The marquee program should never feel that way
 

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Man some people are in serious denial about Pollard.

Pollard has a problem, no doubt. There are, however, also people who have some denial issues around Fred. I would bet that the hotel room thing is more normal than not and Fred perhaps expected more coming from an NBA environment. The other thing that kind of rubbed me the wrong way is that Fred demanded a salary which was completely fine with me, he interviewed with UM which is completely fine, but when it was suggested that maybe upping ticket prices was hitched to his contract somehow, he didn't like that. He wanted to leverage ISU (which is exactly what he did) but he didn't want the fanbase to think he was the type of guy to do that. I don't blame him for doing any of those things but don't get upset when people realize they have to pay more for their tickets so you don't go to Minnesota. It's not like the fans cared about paying more for that reason anyway.