REFUTED: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept

[SighClone23]

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It's really troubling that people would actually believe Hines made this up and there's no truth to it. The Tribune wouldn't let him publish this without some very credible sources.

It's troubling that people put their full faith in what amounts to the opinions of unnamed sources. Especially when the opinions are those of ex-assistant coaches with sour grapes. Hines' story provided no context. Making no attempt to quantify how long the team spent in the ballroom/not explaining that travel money for families was used to get families to Hawaii rather than the NCAA tournament. Hines went out looking to write a certain story and he manipulated the facts. Now it's clear many fools have bought the story hook, line, and sinker.

 

[Wesley]

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Yeah Pollard should have responded to the article piece by piece with explanation PRIOR to publication. Instead he chose to not comment, and respond piece by piece after, and in the process make Hines look bad. But in the process Iowa State was made to look bad, thanks to JP's ego. Not condoning Hines' article, but JP could have handled this differently.

I tend to believe the article,. It makes sense in some ways. Always thought JP liked those 10 year contracts at low cost to lock the amounts in long term for planning so he can spend the rest on bonds for the projects.

 

[CyBobby]

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This is a good example of why our football program will always be second tier. Meanwhile, if this was after an Alabama football game they would have provided their athletes with suites, $100 under the pillow and would have hookers waiting on the bed for their arrival.

Alabama U say........Add Oklahoma State to that list also according to a scathing article in SI a few yrs back.....

Go Cyclones BURY thee "Cheating Jayhawks"....................

 

[RustShack]

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The truth is always somewhere in the middle.

 

[Scott34]

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Yeah Pollard should have responded to the article piece by piece with explanation PRIOR to publication. Instead he chose to not comment, and respond piece by piece after, and in the process make Hines look bad. But in the process Iowa State was made to look bad, thanks to JP's ego. Not condoning Hines' article, but JP could have handled this differently.

This is the exact reason that I'm not a fan of Pollard. The guy thinks that he doesn't need to do anything he doesn't want to and the world revolves around him. The guy has done good things while he's been here but the way he acts will never change

 

[Rick]

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I didn't read the article and only read a handful of posts but the first thing that popped in my head was someone with an ax to grind. Pollard wont fire Rhoads so the next best thing is to hang Pollard out to dry as an unnamed source and hope to get him fired. I just find the whole thing hard to believe with all the success Fred head and all the publicity he brought to the program that Pollard would treat the team that way.

 

[NorthCyd]

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It's really troubling that people would actually believe Hines made this up and there's no truth to it. The Tribune wouldn't let him publish this without some very credible sources.

Lol...more troubling than believing anonymous sources over people who very admantly go on the record saying the article is untrue, particularly when one of those is Fred? Troubling indeed.

 

[IAStubborn]

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Yes he did. Since ISU was playing in Hawaii, Fred asked JP if the assistants's families could travel to Hawaii with. JP said that what can be done is to give the assistants the decision to pick whether they wanted their families to travel free to Hawaii or to the NCAA tournament site (which was later determined San Antonio). Fred said that was fair. That is why the open records request showed that not all of the families got to go to San Antonio, they had previously decided they would rather go to Hawaii for the Diamond Head Classic.

Let's not forget that this Hawaii trip forced ISU to be in Hawaii from December 20th to 26th. Family on a trip over the holidays makes some sense considering. I may be erked if I had to give up another perk for that if I have to work on Christmas at least let my family be there

 

[Redman97]

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I live in a sea of Hawkeyes. Whatever is true or not, they're loving this.

 

[tec71]

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I don't understand how he says "somewhere near double digits" of sources rather than just say x sources the only way it makes sense is if he's trying to make 6 or 7 sources sound like 10 to improve the credibility of his story. I don't know why else you'd do that. (Not that there's any difference between 9 and 6 if they all said the same thing). To me it looks worse.

 

[Spam]

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Lol...more troubling than believing anonymous sources over people who very admantly go on the record saying the article is untrue, particularly when one of those is Fred? Troubling indeed.

If the article was true, Fred would come out and say

"I hate JP. He made our team sleep on the floor. He didn't give me a raise in the 4th year after I got a raise 3 consecutive years. He didn't let the coaches' families travel to the NCAA tourney, but took all his athletic department support staff and their families. The nickel and dimer is jealous of me and my success, and he was indeed very happy to see me go. He is the reason I left Iowa State"

 

[IAStubborn]

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This. A-holes like Gottlieb and Katz tweet Hines' story in a heartbeat but say nothing when both Pollard and Hoiberg go on the air minutes after the story broke.

No they tweeted the sb nation story that says they slept in a hotel ballroom for over a day. Which is ******** but guarantee you Self put it on file.

 

[silvercybone]

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There's obviously plenty of truth. Pollard was given plenty of opportunities in advance of the story to respond. If he had, the story is different if published at all. But he chooses to blow Hines off instead. Story published and he takes to Twitter to attack the writer. Embarrassing. Some of the sources were big donors who I doubt will just sit quietly.

Plenty of opportunities... dunno about that. Both Hines and Pollard stated that the first contact with Pollard was on Monday of this week. Pollard indicated he was told that the publication was to be on Wednesday, and that Fred had already told him he'd told Hines not to publish as it was false, so he likely didn't believe they'd still publish (Admittedly I'm still curious who is lying on this one as Hines states he never talked to Fred. CW and Siepker seemed to think maybe Fred talked off the record, in which case that puts Hines in a hell of a bind). Hines indicated he left Fred one voicemail and sent one text message sometime in the last week (which is probably the busiest time there is for an NBA coach)... This after working on the story by his own account since May. Even if he did talk to Fred off the record I don't think Hines strained himself too much trying to get commentary from the two men most involved.

 

[SighClone23]

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If the article was true, Fred would come out and say
"I hate JP. He made our team sleep on the floor. He didn't give me a raise in the 4th year after I got a raise 3 consecutive years. He didn't let the coaches' families travel to the NCAA tourney, but took all his athletic department support staff and their families. The nickel and dimer is jealous of me and my success, and he was indeed very happy to see me go"

The point is Fred didn't HAVE to say anything. If he felt negatively about Pollard or that the story was fair, do you really think he would take time out of being head coach of the Chicago Bulls during training camp to call KXNO and lie? Are you serious?

 

[NorthCyd]

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If the article was true, Fred would come out and say

"I hate JP. He made our team sleep on the floor. He didn't give me a raise in the 4th year after I got a raise 3 consecutive years. He didn't let the coaches' families travel to the NCAA tourney, but took all his athletic department support staff and their families. The nickel and dimer is jealous of me and my success, and he was indeed very happy to see me go. He is the reason I left Iowa State"

Or maybe have no comment, or issue some kind of weak statement.

Nope, his only possible response was to follow Pollard immediately after he was on the radio to echo the exact same sentiments. I mean, what else was he going to do, right? He loves ISU too much to do anything else, even if it means backing up that cheapskate Pollard!

 

[JimmyChitwood]

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If Pollard truly was jealous of Hoiberg's popularity, that's extremely petty and disappointing. Adoring Fred and still giving Pollard credit for what he's done aren't mutually exclusive to our fans

Pollard is a known ego-maniac. He wants his thumb on each and every aspect of the athletic program. I can't blame him for this but he has to let coaches coach and let admins admin. I've met him a few times and have always left thinking he's quite the superficial *******. This could be the **** storm that brings back his humility and stops him from being a ****. President Leath brought him to earth when he told him to look outside the box when he hired Prohm. If I'm Pollard, I'd kick back and just shut my ******* mouth. While he's a fundraising genius, he can also be a the biggest idiot to walk the planet.

 

[SighClone23]

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Listen to this, and you'll have an idea of the type of journalist/person Travis Hines is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0TwWs93K5w&feature=youtu.be

 

[BBHMagic]

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If the article was true, Fred would come out and say

"I hate JP. He made our team sleep on the floor. He didn't give me a raise in the 4th year after I got a raise 3 consecutive years. He didn't let the coaches' families travel to the NCAA tourney, but took all his athletic department support staff and their families. The nickel and dimer is jealous of me and my success, and he was indeed very happy to see me go. He is the reason I left Iowa State"

Absolutely completely not. Look at this rationally. Why would Hoiberg say anything at all. NOBODY would expect him to comment on this now. He is in the heat of trying to get his new and LONG sought after job on the ground and going. He went out of his way from all that (nearly the moment this trash article was posted mind you) to completely debunk. Can you give a rational response to why he would do that, especially when​ he did that.

 

[Rather]

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Or maybe have no comment, or issue some kind of weak statement. Your right, his only possible response was to follow Pollard immediately after he was on the radio to echo the exact same sentiments. I mean, what else was he going to do, right? He loves ISU too much to do anything else, even if it means backing up that cheapskate Pollard!

I still don't get why it's so bad that JP is accused of essentially trying to, you know, control the expenditures of the athletic department. Isn't that his job? Shouldn't this type of dynamic be expected in any college coach-AD relationship? If the way he did it was perceived as unfair on some occasions, maybe that's worth discussing. But all this BS about "nickel and diming" I do not get. It's not like JP is storing a hoard of cash somewhere. I think he's trying to invest in the athletic department.

 

[clone52]

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Why would donors have a problem with JP?

On the one hand we're hearing that the relevant donors love CPR. On the other hand, we're hearing that the relevant donors are concerned that JP would not handle a prospective coaching search well. But you would think that if they love CPR, they would love an AD that loves CPR (that is, JP)

I'm sure there are donors are on both sides of the story and no matter what any AD does, they are going to make some donors unhappy.