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REFUTED: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
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Yeah Hines looks like a tool. Almost everything he stated in his story were easily verifiable beyond sources and instead of completely verifying them he took sources for their word and got burned.
EXACTLY! When we went on our honeymoon in Hawaii our flight back home didn't leave till 6 or 8pm so we spent the afternoon enjoying our last few hours in a place we may be lucky to ever get back to again some day. It makes no sense to have a hotel room for another night you aren't staying there so I don't know how common sense was considered nickel and diming
Wait, so in the KXNO interview didn't Jamie say that Travis gave HIM the line "You've got a job to do, I've got a job to do", now in this he's saying that Travis gave that line to Fred?
Between holding onto Rhoads (a bad football coach) and essentially helping Hoiberg (amazing basketball coach) leave his hometown, I wouldn't be the least bit sorry to see Pollard go. With that said, I do realize he has done some good things here for ISU with all the facility upgrades.
Leath: "Journalism is a very honorable profession, but not all journalists are honorable. Unfortunately we saw an example of that today." :wideeyed:
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Yes, but my point is that him not naming his sources is not the problem with the article or his credibility. It doesn't matter that his sources are named or not, what matters is that it seems he has conflicting information between his sources, Fred and Jamie, yet he went ahead and published anyways. He's stooped to "National Inquirer" style reporting. "Well, our source says they were abducted by aliens, flown to venus where they met Michael Jackson and Jim Morrison and now she is having their baby." Basically, as long as someone says it's true, we are off the hook for the real truth.
In all honesty, would it matter if he named his sources? It would still be his source against JP and Fred.
Somebody has to manage the money; In a athletic department that is short of it. We need the most bang for the buck!
What a crap comment. Especially when it's coming down that Hines posted a BS story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0TwWs93K5w&feature=youtu.be
No. Jamie said Fred told Hines don't publish that article, its 100% not accurate. Hines said well I have my job to do to Fred. Fred relayed that to Jamie.
Here is my biggest problem with the story by Hines. If you write something like this, you better have done everything possible to verify the facts of the situation as well. With that said, pretty much all articles like this SHOULD be written this way:
1. Publish the statement of what happened from your sources, even if anonymous
2. Show the steps you took to verify the details claimed by your source (you better make a good effort at it too)
3. Post what you were able to verify or weren't able to verify, even if it goes against what your sources are saying
4. If you write an article over many months, you've got plenty of time to put full effort into this and it is irresponsible not to
This brings me back to my problem with this article, which is the fact that #2 and #3 are pretty much nonexistent and #4 gives you no cop out to not include #2 and #3. If you follow these steps, I have no grounds to criticize you, but unfortunately Hines didn't.
1. Publish the statement of what happened from your sources, even if anonymous
2. Show the steps you took to verify the details claimed by your source (you better make a good effort at it too)
3. Post what you were able to verify or weren't able to verify, even if it goes against what your sources are saying
4. If you write an article over many months, you've got plenty of time to put full effort into this and it is irresponsible not to
This brings me back to my problem with this article, which is the fact that #2 and #3 are pretty much nonexistent and #4 gives you no cop out to not include #2 and #3. If you follow these steps, I have no grounds to criticize you, but unfortunately Hines didn't.
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Serious question, do you have a brain issue? JP didn't "essentially help Hoiberg leave", Hoiberg even stated he was going to the Bulls no matter what. Why is that so hard for some to accept?
Ya that is some serious denial. Not a JP fan, but Fred leaving had nothing to do with Jamie. I think if there was any tension it was simply business and both Fred/Jamie understood that.
I think this has a lot to do with how this article blew up as well. ISU is definitely a decent basketball program, especially the last few years. But a lot of fans like to put our program up on a pretty high pedestal. Now, I don't think anyone really compares us to Duke or Kentucky, but a lot of fans here think this program is a lot better than it really is historically. Even as good as it's been the last 4 years, the deepest we got was Sweet 16.
Of course there is going to be a little bit of Nickel and Diming going on, there has to be to keep the Athletic Department afloat. We shouldn't be asking if Kentucky or Duke would do this, because we aren't even sniffing their jocks, let alone be able to compare our programs to theirs. We need to look at programs who consistently make the tournament, maybe miss a few years here and there and haven't been to a final four since WWII. Compare our budget to them and you might have a case.
No matter how bright the future has looked or will be, until we start producing on the level of Kentucky or Duke, no one has any business comparing our basketball budgets with them.
