Mangino OUT as OC. Sturdy is the guy!

[ThatllDoCy]

OK, now for my wonton speculation. Sam is running Mangino's package. Lanning is running Sturdy's. Sturdy's is working better, and probably because of the QB position. Rhoads makes Lanning starter, Mangino doesn't want to run someone else's Offense, and sayw, "Why am I here?" CPR says, "Not sure." Mangino says let's part ways and they decide it.

I think that Mangino's Offense would work if we had a QB capable of running it. Apparently we don't.

I will say that Blaney has done an outstanding job so I hope that he is able to maintain along with Tommy M.

 

[CyJack13]

Let's hope Lazard pulls together a "players only meeting" and keep these guys united. Need the team to stick together now, more than ever.

Yeah don't want ruin this terrific run we've been on the last few years.

 

[clone4life82]

You know what the bad thing is....if Sturdy gets the offense going Rhoads can use, "It was Mangino's fault" and stay another year.

Oh man that'd be horrible if the offense got going so we might win a couple games... Great philosophy. We should be rooting to play well and win regardless of who's at the helm.

 

[nj829]

I would guess Mangino doesn't want to slow it down and pound the rock, and that's what we need to do with 2 good young RB's and a QB that can run the read option.

Herman did decent with the offense for what he had to work with, the Pinstripe Bowl sucked, but that is really the biggest knock on Herman I have. Messingham shouldn't have happened.

I think we get 2-3 wins to close out the season, and CPR will be back next year, which until the second half of the Baylor game I was not excited about. Now I am excited for the final stretch here as I think some good things can happen.

 

[jsb]

If you actually listen to Rhoads' presser it sounds like he didn't really want things to go down this way. My guess is that Mangino quit.

i would bet a lot that the last straw was the qb. And maybe Rhoads was the one that wanted to keep Sam.

 

[DeereClone]

I also don't think this has any impact on Rhoads' retention/dismissal. If we play better down the stretch he stays, if we continue to suck, he is gone...just like it would have been with MM at OC.

 

[carvers4math]

My brother had claimed all year Mangino was the problem with the offense and wasn't sure if I agreed. Kind of wonder now. It does annoy the heck out of me that we NEVER have QB under center.

I was encouraged when we had a few throws to tight ends finally. Kind of wonder if since we never can compete with spread offenses in the league, if maybe our offense should go more old school.

 

[tazclone]

Mangino was on the forefront of the spread/air raid/high tempo type offenses and it worked. He was out of the game for a while and everyone else caught up/caught on and now his style is very mainstream and easy to prepare for.

Herman was a flop here and a legitimate example for your argument.

Messingham was a joke who should have never been hired.

2/3 I don't think are 100% "wow that guy is awesome and CPR screwed him up"

And yet Messhingham scored more PPG than any of them.

 

[DiehardClone]

I know Rhoads said in the presser that it wasn't about who starts at QB as the reason he fired him, but I have on good word that Mangino did not want to start Lanning

Please continue...

 

[cydline2cydline]

Happiest guy in the room is probably CW. He has been harping on the poor offensive coaching all season. (Plus this just generated all kinds of traffic for his website)./

 

[bawbie]

OK, now for my wonton speculation. Sam is running Mangino's package. Lanning is running Sturdy's. Sturdy's is working better, and probably because of the QB position. Rhoads makes Lanning starter, Mangino doesn't want to run someone else's Offense, and sayw, "Why am I here?" CPR says, "Not sure." Mangino says let's part ways and they decide it.

I think that Mangino's Offense would work if we had a QB capable of running it. Apparently we don't.

I will say that Blaney has done an outstanding job so I hope that he is able to maintain along with Tommy M.

Well, we know (per CW) that Mangino has called all the plays. I don't think there is a "Sturdy package" precisely. It also doesn't pass the smell test that this is all about Sam starting vs. Joel starting. After last week you can't just trot Sam back out as the starter. That's not worth going to bat for.

So here's my completely wild *** guess: The "change in direction" that Paul referenced is ditching the spread hurry-up for a ground-based, slow it down run-first attack. Now that kind of change I could see Mangino quitting over being forced to do.

 

[roundball]

OK, now for my wonton speculation. Sam is running Mangino's package. Lanning is running Sturdy's. Sturdy's is working better, and probably because of the QB position. Rhoads makes Lanning starter, Mangino doesn't want to run someone else's Offense, and sayw, "Why am I here?" CPR says, "Not sure." Mangino says let's part ways and they decide it.

I think that Mangino's Offense would work if we had a QB capable of running it. Apparently we don't.

I will say that Blaney has done an outstanding job so I hope that he is able to maintain along with Tommy M.

Now you've got me speculating about wontons. Mmmm, wontons...

 

[jkclone]

First can we all accept that Rhoads hasn't been interfering with the offense. I feel it is clear that Mangino was in charge and had authority over the offense.

I don't totally get the hate for Mangino. Over the past 5 games, we have averaged 470 some yards, so its not like we are not moving the ball. Our biggest problem has been scoring in the red zone. Everything else on offense has been in place. Currently we are ranked 50th in the nation in passing and 56th in rushing, which are probably the best rankings nationally we have had since Rhoads has gotten here. And I think these rankings will improve as the season goes on.

I think the hate is that people realize Mangino was the one not doing things how they wanted to have it done. Everyone has been put in Lanning and they realize that Rhoads finally made Mangino make the change. They realize a lot of them were wrong about Rhoads interfering in the offense and that makes them mad too.

 

[tazclone]

OK, now for my wonton speculation. Sam is running Mangino's package. Lanning is running Sturdy's. Sturdy's is working better, and probably because of the QB position. Rhoads makes Lanning starter, Mangino doesn't want to run someone else's Offense, and sayw, "Why am I here?" CPR says, "Not sure." Mangino says let's part ways and they decide it.

I think that Mangino's Offense would work if we had a QB capable of running it. Apparently we don't.

I will say that Blaney has done an outstanding job so I hope that he is able to maintain along with Tommy M.

Tommy M hasn't showed me much. Love what Blaney has done

 

[isucally]

Rhoads just stated in his presser that Mark and him couldn't get on the same page, and Sturdy is the guy going forward.

My god this program is a complete tire fire right now...

 

[DeereClone]

I know Rhoads said in the presser that it wasn't about who starts at QB as the reason he fired him, but I have on good word that Mangino did not want to start Lanning

And everyone here wanted Lanning....but are mad at CPR for firing MM who was probably sticking up for SR and the pass-heavy game and didn't want Lanning....gotta love the internet.

 

[CyFan61]

Rhoads never said he fired Mangino. I think he probably resigned when Rhoads made Lanning the starter. Mangino probably demanded (and got) complete control of the offense in order to come here. Rhoads took that away today by going with Lanning, and Mangino quit.

 

[SCNCY]

Well, we know (per CW) that Mangino has called all the plays. I don't think there is a "Sturdy package" precisely. It also doesn't pass the smell test that this is all about Sam starting vs. Joel starting. After last week you can't just trot Sam back out as the starter. That's not worth going to bat for.

So here's my completely wild *** guess: The "change in direction" that Paul referenced is ditching the spread hurry-up for a ground-based, slow it down run-first attack. Now that kind of change I could see Mangino quitting over being forced to do.

I don't see how making Sturdy the OC would change to a slow based ground game. Sturdy is a West Cost Offense kind of guy. I believe he came from Washington State before Leach got there.

 

[DeereClone]

Rhoads never said he fired Mangino. I think he probably resigned when Rhoads made Lanning the starter. Mangino probably demanded (and got) complete control of the offense in order to come here. Rhoads took that away today by going with Lanning, and Mangino quit.

This would be my best guess as well. If correct, I think this is a step in the right direction.

 

[ISUcyclones11]

"Joel had nothing to do with it"

I know he's just trying to say the right things, but it isn't hard to see through that lmfao

Good riddance Mark.