FIRE PAUL RHOADS!!

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I dont agree with this. As I pasted in another thread, I think he has to win 2 of 3. We arent going to go get the same type of coach that VT, South Carolina, and so on will. We need someone that fits the mold of the players that we can recruit. We could get a guy like Matt Campbell or someone that can elevate the talent of lower recruited players.

I am guessing you don't realize that other conferences of football can take partial qualifiers. I still haven't seen a big ten rule on this either. For example Iowa claims they don't take them but I have yet to see this policy anywhere.

I also know that a recent starting dend was rumored to score very...very low on his ACT and people were very surprised when he made it into school.

In other words I would be careful about making statements that coaches or teams are winning with less talent. Sometimes these coaches have an advantage like partial qualifiers. See Boise state.

The big twelve has a rule. So does the sec.
 
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I dont agree with this. As I pasted in another thread, I think he has to win 2 of 3. We arent going to go get the same type of coach that VT, South Carolina, and so on will. We need some that fits the mold of the players that we can recruit. We could get a guy like Matt Campbell or someone that elevate the talent of lower recruited players.
Which is exactly what Rhoads was doing before he came here. Changing coaches is not a simple thing, understatement of the year. I don't think ISU has anything to offer an up and comer right now, sad to say. We are in one of the toughest leagues to coach against and the top teams are entrenched there. I don't know the answer. I would like to see Paul do well but not confident he can. Maybe with the young backfield he catches fire in a bottle or he just falls on his face. Either way it is a crapshoot and continue to support the cardinal and gold.
 

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I've been reading a lot of posts in support of Paul Rhoads sticking around for another year, and I am saddened by how little we expect of our football team and coaches. I'm sick of the same chorus after another terrible football year of "Wait till next year, we will be better". That is the same thing I heard last year when Paul Rhoads should have been fired. I'm tired of being the fan base that expects so little of our football team that we can't be let down. I mean 3 wins... 3 wins?! We keep talking about how good the teams we lost to are, but we don't talk about how bad the teams we beat are. Everyone is over the moon about beating a 3-5 Texas team. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Would we expect so little from our basketball team? Would we constantly bemoan how difficult it is to recruit players to Ames is? No, we have had success, and now we expect something better. We should want the same thing for football. It reminds me a of a Kitchen Nightmares episode where the owner of a failing business is so scared to change (even though he is losing money hand over fist) because he doesn't want to alienate his current customers. I want to try something new. People ask me, "Who would you want instead?" My answer is, I don't care. Anyone else. This didn't work, next one up. Because what we are currently doing isn't working. I'm ready for a change.

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1st, the thread has value when it doesn't appear that anyone is having a discourse currently

2nd, he has to win 2 more, imo
 

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I think if we win one more game, the buyout on CPR's contract will keep him here another year. Though I agree with JohnnyFive that we still have a remote chance at a winning out and a bowl game. It certainly isn't likely nor easy, but I think the team actually has a chance at it.

Lots of people talk about the number of wins as expectations for the program, but for me, its more about feeling like we have a realistic chance to win any game. The last two years and most of this year that hasn't been the case, though over the last few games I've seen that glimmer of hope creep back in, which makes watching the games fun again.

I don't think we do win out, but if the program can get back to a place where its not unrealistic to think we've got a chance to win any game, then I guess CPR being back next year wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. FWIW I thought he should have been gone after last year to avoid this exact type of scenario, because I'm not sure he's the long term solution and you had an easily justifiable reason after winning 5 games in two years, in addition to the clear downward trend of the team over those years.
 

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I dont agree with this. As I pasted in another thread, I think he has to win 2 of 3. We arent going to go get the same type of coach that VT, South Carolina, and so on will. We need someone that fits the mold of the players that we can recruit. We could get a guy like Matt Campbell or someone that can elevate the talent of lower recruited players.

1. I know that VT has an opening, but has it been stated anywhere that they are going to be looking for a new coach or just promote Bud Foster. He is long overdue for a head coaching job and I personally feel it is a perfect transition for them.

2. I think Matt Campbell will be given a opportunity at a bigger name school.
 

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This really isn't a good year to be hiring a coach. We would be like #41 on the pecking order.
 

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This really isn't a good year to be hiring a coach. We would be like #41 on the pecking order.

Ive heard this a bunch but just because its a bad year to hire doesnt mean you shouldnt get rid of a terrible coach. I have a feeling almost anyone in the coaching world could get us to 2 or 3 wins a year. hire someone for a year that has nothing to lose.
 

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JP can't win right now. Well unless of course Paul wins out and we get a Bowl game this year. Otherwise there is no good ending in this for JP. Maybe he makes a homerun hire, but I'd **** in one hand and hope in the other and see which one happens first.
 

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You keep saying this (without any real evidence of course) but its just not true.

IDK, I suppose I would support a change even for a coach that was completely uninspiring. I just worry about losing Mike Warren, Lanning, Lazard, Coach Ayeni, Coach Eggins but gotta crack some eggs to make an omelet.
 

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"On the partial qualifiers rule, Osborne said, “Where this rule can hurt you is if a player is considering Nebraska and Ohio State or some other school in the Big Ten.â€￾ Osborne was an historically deft recruiter, but it’s always difficult to recruit and get a*top recruit*to play in Nebraska. The weather in Nebraska is one thing, and the idea that there isn’t anything to do in Nebraska is another.* On that note, how does a Nebraska, a Kansas, or a Missouri compete with the Florida, Texas and California schools when it comes to top tier recruits?* Why would one damage their ability to recruit in this regard?* The NCAA does not limit the number of partial qualifiers a school can recruit, but each individual conference has this ability.* The Big 12 enforced the strictest standards of any conference.* They limited the number of partial qualifiers to one male and one female.* The Big 10 does not have such standards.* The Big 10 focuses their standards on a student that is enrolled in school.* In other words, the Big 10 does not limit the recruit, until he is in school.* At that point, if he doesn't get his grades up he won't play, but the Big 10 does not limit its schools in their recruiting procedures.*"

From a 2010 article. It makes me chuckle every time I read the bs about big ten academic standards for athletes.
 

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Honest question, does the money for a buyout need to come from donors, or is that a hit to the athletic budget? I assume that it's a hit on the budget.

I think many are in the camp that want to try something new, but all of our revenue is currently being spent. I'm not voting either way because I love CPR, I love the improvements that I see, but I'm also in the camp that ISU is in the best position it has ever been in with facilities and we need to jump while the iron is hot.

But if we miss again, not only are we WAY in the hole on salaries, but then we will probably need to replace the best AD we've ever had. I've seen sooo many years of bad football that I'm content to wait a couple years longer to take the sting out of the buyout.
 

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"On the partial qualifiers rule, Osborne said, “Where this rule can hurt you is if a player is considering Nebraska and Ohio State or some other school in the Big Ten.” Osborne was an historically deft recruiter, but it’s always difficult to recruit and get a*top recruit*to play in Nebraska. The weather in Nebraska is one thing, and the idea that there isn’t anything to do in Nebraska is another.* On that note, how does a Nebraska, a Kansas, or a Missouri compete with the Florida, Texas and California schools when it comes to top tier recruits?* Why would one damage their ability to recruit in this regard?* The NCAA does not limit the number of partial qualifiers a school can recruit, but each individual conference has this ability.* The Big 12 enforced the strictest standards of any conference.* They limited the number of partial qualifiers to one male and one female.* The Big 10 does not have such standards.* The Big 10 focuses their standards on a student that is enrolled in school.* In other words, the Big 10 does not limit the recruit, until he is in school.* At that point, if he doesn't get his grades up he won't play, but the Big 10 does not limit its schools in their recruiting procedures.*"

From a 2010 article. It makes me chuckle every time I read the bs about big ten academic standards for athletes.

This policy is admirable in my opinion, assuming you could guarantee schools weren't going to cheat. Why not give the kid a chance? Special treatment blah blah blah. This world is full of people who knew somebody to get where they are today.
 

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1. I know that VT has an opening, but has it been stated anywhere that they are going to be looking for a new coach or just promote Bud Foster. He is long overdue for a head coaching job and I personally feel it is a perfect transition for them.

2. I think Matt Campbell will be given a opportunity at a bigger name school.

Who is that? He is not a splash hire for anyone, not even us. They just lost to NIU which hurt his credentials IMO. He is the type of guy we need. Someone that can coach in the trenches, which is where a school like ISU needs to win in order to be successful.