Great logic! The Bulls shouldn't have hired Hoiberg since Floyd didn't work out.
Throwback Thread: COACHING SEARCH: Wednesday, Nov. 25 evening update
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Great logic! The Bulls shouldn't have hired Hoiberg since Floyd didn't work out.
I can't believe how many people are against the Leipold hire. It absolutely boggles my mind.
I don't care what level he coached at, you win 6 titles in 8 years you are a DAMN good football coach.
I look at Brian Kelly. He's the exact same as Leipold. Coached at Grand Valley State (D2) for 13 years. He built a program, and won. He knew what it was like to be the leader of a program and most importantly knew what it was like to WIN! He had ZERO D1 experience but has that stopped him from being a top level coach in college football? No.
Leipold and Fritz are the best options on this list IMO. Followed by Campbell and Navy's coach
I don't care what level he coached at, you win 6 titles in 8 years you are a DAMN good football coach.
I look at Brian Kelly. He's the exact same as Leipold. Coached at Grand Valley State (D2) for 13 years. He built a program, and won. He knew what it was like to be the leader of a program and most importantly knew what it was like to WIN! He had ZERO D1 experience but has that stopped him from being a top level coach in college football? No.
Leipold and Fritz are the best options on this list IMO. Followed by Campbell and Navy's coach
My only question is, why didn't someone bigger than Buffalo pull out him out of Wisconsin then?
Paul Clark @cyclonereport 46m46 minutes agoFOOTBALL: Source - Iowa State actively interested in SEC def coord for head coach job http://iowastate.forums.rivals.com/threads/football-new-name-to-add-re-coach-search.15506/ … ($) http://rvls.co/ISUFB
only SEC DC i'd be ok with is Kirby Smart.
I agree with Gray 99% of the time. Unfortunately, this is the 1% No way on Leipold!
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only SEC DC i'd be ok with is Kirby Smart.
I'll trust CW's list over Paul Clarks tease
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Barry Odom?
Leipold didn't build up a program, he was given a national champion team and told not to run it into the ground.
FOOTBALL: Source - Iowa State actively interested in SEC def coord for head coach job http://iowastate.forums.rivals.com/threads/football-new-name-to-add-re-coach-search.15506/ … ($) http://rvls.co/ISUFB
only SEC DC i'd be ok with is Kirby Smart.
This guy?
http://www.mutigers.com/news/2014/12/23/Barry_Odom_Named_Defensive_Coordinator.aspx
Yeah not saying he wouldn't do a good job at ISU but that does concern me a bit. At D3 level it is Whitewater & Mount Union at 1 level and everyone else way below.
Yes, you don't have to be a subscriber to see the first two words of the thread. Missouri Defensive...
FOOTBALL: Source - Iowa State actively interested in SEC def coord for head coach job http://iowastate.forums.rivals.com/threads/football-new-name-to-add-re-coach-search.15506/ … ($) http://rvls.co/ISUFB
only SEC DC i'd be ok with is Kirby Smart.
This is premium content, but if you click the link, the only two words that are visible on the message board post are "Missouri defensive". So, even without a membership (and without breaking rules of going behind a paywall, since I didn't), I assume this is referring to Barry Odom on Gary Pinkel's staff.
Another DC? Uh oh.
FOOTBALL: Source - Iowa State actively interested in SEC def coord for head coach job http://iowastate.forums.rivals.com/threads/football-new-name-to-add-re-coach-search.15506/ … ($) http://rvls.co/ISUFB
only SEC DC i'd be ok with is Kirby Smart.
Like you said, Kelly BUILT Grand Valley St. The biggest concern is Leipold didn't build anything, but rather inherited a great situation. It boggles my mind you can't understand that.
I'm not completely against such a hire, but that represents real risk and makes vetting needed. I don't trust JP being able to do that on the football side with such a hire. If we had a AD like Alaverz, sure.
There's lots of guys out there dominating in DII sports, but that doesn't make them DI successes.
There are two big differences between Leipold and Kelly:
The first is one was great at D2, the other is great at D3. To what degree are those leagues different, in terms of gameplay, strategy, talent levels and recruiting, etc.
Leipold is doing okay/meh with an okay/meh Buffalo team. Kelly, while at all of CMU, Cincy, and now ND, came into programs of fairly recent success and decently talented rosters. He also, for the most part, elevated these programs above their peaks just before him.
Except Brian Kelly steadily improved CMU for 3 years (4-7,6-5,9-4) before moving on to Cincinnati. I made a bad argument against Leipold and rightly got mocked for it, but I'd rather have someone that's proven themselves at the FCS/FBS level. Leipold hasn't done that.
