Niang's 4th Foul

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Probably the worst thing about college basketball is that refs call cheap *** **** calls on all American level players. Nobody wants to see those guys on the bench. Fans, tv sponsors, ticket holders, nobody. It is garbage. If they are gonna call that **** players should get 6 fouls.
 

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Probably the worst thing about college basketball is that refs call cheap *** **** calls on all American level players. Nobody wants to see those guys on the bench. Fans, tv sponsors, ticket holders, nobody. It is garbage. If they are gonna call that **** players should get 6 fouls.
Seems to me that if we get to the point where refs are calling fouls based on what's best for the fans or for tv ratings that we've done something very wrong. I don't think going to 6 fouls would be a bad thing though.
 

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That call absolutely changed the outcome. We may or may not have came back but what it did do is take away any chance we had and killed momentum. They went on an 8-2 run right after that.
 

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Regarding Niangs offensive fouls, he was pressing. We had no other offense or "spark". Was trying his damndest to keep us in it.

Except his 2 offensive fouls were on moving screens. Complete ticky tack fouls, its not like they even gave an advantage to the guy coming off the screens.
 

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Seems to me that if we get to the point where refs are calling fouls based on what's best for the fans or for tv ratings that we've done something very wrong. I don't think going to 6 fouls would be a bad thing though.
I am just saying I don't tune into games with great players to watch them sit on the bench because the refs don't have the skills necessary to call the game correctly. So going to six fouls may compensate for their crapiness.
 

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Probably still would have lost regardless but there were a lot of BS calls in that game. And zero of them went our way. The first 10 minutes set the tone for the whole game and we never recovered.
 

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The refs were definitely not the reason we lost that game. However, that call was complete crap and made by the ref near the scorers table. Not the guy under the basket. And the ONLY 2 moving screens called in the game were both on the ISU star. That stinks.
 

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Probably still would have lost regardless but there were a lot of BS calls in that game. And zero of them went our way. The first 10 minutes set the tone for the whole game and we never recovered.
Well there was twice Niang clearly traveled. There's 2 we benifited from off the top of my head. Refs don't have an agenda to screw us like many believe.
 

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Well there was twice Niang clearly traveled. There's 2 we benifited from off the top of my head. Refs don't have an agenda to screw us like many believe.
Travels and fouls are completely different things. Travel calls don't bench the best players in the tournament.
 

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It didn't impact the game. I don't know the real number...but we gave up 60 points in the paint? Many were barely contested? That is why we lost.

It most certainly impacted the game. It wasn't the sole reason we lost by any stretch, that happened in the first 5 minutes and in the paint all game, but to say losing our star player because of foul trouble didn't impact the game is ignorance.
 

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No officiating didn't cost ISU this game, other things did. But is it too much to ask for a game at this point in the season to be called well. Is it too much to ask for each team to be treated the same way by the refs? If it is a foul on one end it is a foul on the other end. I don't understand how it seems time after time ISU gets called for tick tacky fouls, yet the team they are playing can grab, and hack and not get fouls called. If you as a ref are going to allow one team to hack away, allow the other to do the same. If you are going to call everything on one team, call everything on the other team.
 

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Well there was twice Niang clearly traveled. There's 2 we benifited from off the top of my head. Refs don't have an agenda to screw us like many believe.

This....


...well and the fact we gave up 40 points in layups.
 

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Let's be honest, the only way we were going to get a fair shake from the refs is if we were wearing some shade of blue. The result wouldn't have changed though.
 

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It didn't impact the game. I don't know the real number...but we gave up 60 points in the paint? Many were barely contested? That is why we lost.

A lot of teams are going to play bad defense when great defensive plays are transformed to fouls by incompetent officiating. We wouldn't have shut down UVA but the slanted officiating made things much easier for UVA than for ISU.

Imagine 4 undeserved free throws going ISU's way during the tight part of the game. Why? Because UVA made a great play that needed to be wiped out for no reason whatsoever. Then you get an idea of where a well called game would have had this thing.
 

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We lost because Virginia is an outstanding team. We would have needed to be almost perfect to beat them. Some questionable calls, but we simply got beat by a very good team

If we needed a perfect game then you're saying it was impossible for ISU to win.

If we had a perfect game two of our best plays wouldn't have resulted in 4 UVA free throws. That's not perfect.
 

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Should have never been there. The two moving screen calls killed us.

Why did every other player get 5 fouls and the far and away best player in the game only was allowed 4? It was bad officiating. The Burton call was even worse but obviously didn't have the same impact on the game.

As others said, Niang not getting the obvious call on the other end compounded their mistake.

Nobody can say what would have happened, but 99% chance the game is closer if Niang and Burton don't both pick up bogus fouls on great defensive plays...get this...maybe the team would have defended better if they weren't being called differently than UVA's defense?!?!? Crazy right.
 

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A lot of teams are going to play bad defense when great defensive plays are transformed to fouls by incompetent officiating. We wouldn't have shut down UVA but the slanted officiating made things much easier for UVA than for ISU.

Imagine 4 undeserved free throws going ISU's way during the tight part of the game. Why? Because UVA made a great play that needed to be wiped out for no reason whatsoever. Then you get an idea of where a well called game would have had this thing.

If you think officiating won this game for UVA:

1. You didn't watch the game I watched
OR
2. You are delusional enough that you should be wearing a tigerhawk on your shirt.