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Supposedly, that's why she stayed in Mereen for so long. It doesn't appear she learned a whole lot about ruling, though, but some crazy stuff happened, so...
Game of Thrones Season 6
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Supposedly, that's why she stayed in Mereen for so long. It doesn't appear she learned a whole lot about ruling, though, but some crazy stuff happened, so...
I don't think it'll be between Jon and Sansa, I think LF is going to be the instigator. The only thing is, I don't ever see Sansa leaving the North again, making her the Queen is his only leverage, if she doesn't want that, he has nothing. The only tension between Sansa and Jon will be if LF can convince her to turn on Jon. Sansa was happy to see the Lords of the North support Jon, until she saw how LF reacted. IMO the exchange of glances at the end of that scene was Sansa realizing that LF's plans are out the window if Jon is the Warden of the North. She realized who the next enemy is.
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Tyrion isn't much better at ruling, based on track record. People hated him when he was hand of the King, and in Mereen, his ideas led to the Masters bringing war on them. Not his fault, necessarily, but such is the nature of ruling.
Tyrion is a kinslayer, which pretty much limits his political options to being Dany's hand.
Was watching that Rockstars recap of Battle of the Bastards and they do bring up a good point. There is a ton of shots over the past season/s of Dany and Jon in similar circumstances that they believe are absolutely intentional. They also seem to think that Dany could turn into a villain at some point, which Im not totally sold on, but I can see why they would think that.
Thought his track record was not to bad considering he was saddled with Joffery and Cersie. Also he has proven to be a good military strategist. In Mereen he brought peace to the city, and outed the slavers for what they were. That was an inevitable war, he knew, they knew he just had to delay it long enough, and he did.
Not sure we have seen a good ruler yet. Ned maybe, but he as to naive for kings landing. Tywin probably wasn't a bad ruler provided he had something to profit from. Speaking of profit, when is the Iron bank going to come calling?
They have to die together in a grossed-out lovers embrace that only a brother and sister can share.
I think we're done with any big shakeups on the show. It's pretty clear they are setting up the final season to be an epic conflict between the living (with dragons, fire) and the dead (white walkers, ice). In the meantime they have three side pieces to wrap up. Cersei in KL, Littlefingers plotting, and Euron on Pyke. I think they'll bring those pieces together for one conflict that wraps things up and bring Jon and Dany together to fight the Night's King.
My thoughts (which most likely will be wrong) on how that happens.
Dany and her fleet land in Dorne to prepare to invade King's Landing.
Euron shows up with his fleet to offer to Cersei.
Littlefinger leaves Winterfell, knowing he can't get Sansa and goes to KL to offer the Knights of the Vale to fight for Cersei, who is now a Queen without a King (crazy I know).
The alliance of Euron, Cersei, and the Knight of the Vale put of a better fight than Dany anticipates.
Up north the Wall falls and the white walkers drive the northerns south, causing them to enter the conflict.
Jon and Dany's armies overwhelm the Cersei alliance just in time to regroup to fight the white walkers in the last season.
My thoughts (which most likely will be wrong) on how that happens.
Dany and her fleet land in Dorne to prepare to invade King's Landing.
Euron shows up with his fleet to offer to Cersei.
Littlefinger leaves Winterfell, knowing he can't get Sansa and goes to KL to offer the Knights of the Vale to fight for Cersei, who is now a Queen without a King (crazy I know).
The alliance of Euron, Cersei, and the Knight of the Vale put of a better fight than Dany anticipates.
Up north the Wall falls and the white walkers drive the northerns south, causing them to enter the conflict.
Jon and Dany's armies overwhelm the Cersei alliance just in time to regroup to fight the white walkers in the last season.
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His track record in King's Landing might have been good, although the city starved, there were lots of riots, and the people hated him as much as they did Joff. Regardless of if it was deserved, that's his track record. He had a great defense strategy, but in other areas, it wasn't great at all. In Mereen, he bought some peace, yes, but it only lasted so the Masters could gather their strength for an attack. He was thoroughly beaten, and only bailed out because Dany showed up to save the day at the last minute.
Tyrion was the best Hand aside from Tywin that we have seen IMO. He is as well read as a Maester with Tywin's cunning.
I would agree. Every Hand can only be as good as the king they serve. Tywin was regarded by most as the best Hand of the king to ever live, most thought everything that went well in the Mad King's early years were because of him, but eventually the Mad King ruined everything he built. I would argue that Tyrion did the same thing, except his moves and the outcomes due to the king was just accelerated.
1st cousin marriages were common in this county until the civil war among wealthy southerners. Keep the money in the family.
I don't see the Vale fighting for Cersei. 1) Littlefinger doesn't technically have the power to order the troops down there and how he manipulated Robin into doing it to aid Sansa was Robin's crush for her (which I believe she will use to to bring down Littlefinger) 2) Little finger isn't going to put his army into harms way like that, he's much more likely to wait for the chaos and try to take out whoever is left standing
I also don't see Jon coming down to Kings Landing or her going to Winterfell to ask for his help.
I do think we're likely to see Euron align with Cersei (and there may be a marriage proposal to him in exchange for his help) but ultimately I think it will be Jamie who ends the war by killing his sister.
The wall is broken in the last episode of next season setting up the final season.
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How many Hands other than Tywin have we actually seen, though?
Ned, Mace Tyrell, and now Qyburn. (Harys Swift and Orton Merryweather were not in the show)
That's not exactly a lot of competition for him. Ask a commoner who they thought was the best out of that group, and the answer wouldn't be Tyrion. They'd probably say Tywin or possibly Mace. Mace did, after all, end the famine.
Why is there such confusion about the handsome young boy.
He gave Cersei the gay prostitute from his brothel and the one he gave Olenna was Lancel. I thought it was cut and dry
A big loose end with LF is the lie that he told about Sansa being captured. How long until Robin finds out, or Bronze Yohn Royce?
I also agree that Sansa and LF don't have the same goals.
She needs to get Bronze Yohn to get Robin to marry her, and kill LF.
I also agree that Sansa and LF don't have the same goals.
She needs to get Bronze Yohn to get Robin to marry her, and kill LF.
