I thought the B1G's goal was to poach Virginia and North Carolina after if they can raid the ACC (and not get ND).
Also, all this talk about Iowa not wanting ISU is not true. On that leaked tape from Gordon Gee from when he was at Ohio State, he made mention that the Iowa president was under tremendous pressure to get ISU into the Big10. Sounds like they got their marching orders from the regents.
Exactly.The problem is that Iowa has as much say in the B1G's internal workings as Iowa State does in the Big 12's.
I don't really think anyone knows Oklahoma and Texas are looking. Maybe they are now because no one can agree who to add for expansion. Wouldn't blame them entirely. But the Big 12 is good for both Texas and Oklahoma.
If OU and UT leave and take 2 friends
Best of the Rest Conference
West
TCU
Baylor
BYU
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
East
Cincy
West Virginia
UConn
Houston
Memphis
East Carolina
There are worse things in the world. We'd get to keep some historic rivals and might actually win some games. This is essentially the Big East plus Big 12. We can make that conference work IF we have too
They already are in a conference that has a long term GOR.If I'm the B1G, I save the last two spots for Notre Dame & Pitt. If schools are forced to join a conference to qualify for a shot at a four team playoff...
Like Notre Dame couldn't get out of it? & Pitt is one of their traditional rivals. A division of Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Pitt, Maryland, & Rutgers may be a conference situation the Irish say "yes" to. Especially if cross-divisional games become purely optional and don't count towards your division record.
The ACC contract may need to be renegotiated when Texas joins as an affiliate/independent member anyways.
People expecting a B1G invite are living in fantasy land. Our academic standing won't count for ****.
Georgia Tech and UNC would be my guesses. Northern Virginia, where most of the population is, already gets BTN thanks to Maryland. GT adds Atlanta.
I'm not saying it would happen in the next ten years; what I'm saying is I wouldn't be surprised if the B1G would rather save those last two spots until Notre Dame was ready. What if the playoff doesn't expand? What if the super conferences divorce the NCAA?
Just off the top, the value of the conference would seem to be diminished quite a lot in that scenario. If one goes, and one stays, who else goes also.Thought-experiment time, seeking feedback from those whose grasp of realignment reality is better than mine. Suppose there's no new GOR and no expansion at this time. How likely is it that only one of UT or OU would bolt at the end of current agreement, and not both? Would one school find it lucrative to be Big 12 kingpin if the other goes elsewhere?
I know many factors come into play that we can't predict — expansion to 8-team playoff, unexpected shakeups/expansions in other leagues, and so on. Just curious.
Expanding the playoffs is a huge variable that could affect the Big12 tremendously. If there is an 8 team playoff then I think the possibility of UT and OU staying increases. But one will not stay without the other. ESPN is already doing what they can to show the Big12 as a lesser conference. If one of those two leave, it'll be tough for the other to keep the conference relevant.Thought-experiment time, seeking feedback from those whose grasp of realignment reality is better than mine. Suppose there's no new GOR and no expansion at this time. How likely is it that only one of UT or OU would bolt at the end of current agreement, and not both? Would one school find it lucrative to be Big 12 kingpin if the other goes elsewhere?
I know many factors come into play that we can't predict — expansion to 8-team playoff, unexpected shakeups/expansions in other leagues, and so on. Just curious.
Pac 12 has not extended either, so don't lump them in with SEC, ACC and Big TenVery telling that the ACC extended and the B12 isn't. It's been decided which of the P5 conferences won't make it.
I guess it makes sense that the one that is most central to the other 4 is the one that will be raided down the road.
I'm now going to root for Houston, BYU, Cincinnati and Memphis from here out since they will be our league mates in a few years.
Pac 12 has not extended either, so don't lump them in with SEC, ACC and Big Ten