Jake Knott-- Updates

[Cybyassociation]

Come on, Tre, there's such a thing as oversharing info, and that's what the poster did

IMO, oversharing would have been giving specifics on who, what, when. If anything, if gives folks some insight, maybe this isn't the first time or the first sign something is seriously wrong with Jake. I think everyone agrees he needs help and the behavior he's displayed lately is far from the Jake Knott who stepped on the field for ISU. Every interaction I've ever had with Jake has been incredibly positive. He was a great kid when he was in school and wasn't too cool to talk to an old fart at the party. I just hope this was his rock bottom and his wake up call.

 

[ClonesFTW]

While I agree, I think people are more concerned because this is out of character. If, say, it was Donnie Jennert, I don't think the reaction would be the same. It has more to do with this being pretty surprising coming from Jake Knott.

Jennert is still on the stage at Headliners to this day.

 

[Tre4ISU]

You clearly ignored the fact that (as I explained in my post) I only objected to the irrelevant, unsubstantiated gossip in his post.

It's most certainly relevant. With that poster, who has constantly defended members of the program, I highly doubt is unsubstantiated. That's my point.

Come on, Tre, there's such a thing as oversharing info, and that's what the poster did

I don't think he did. Maybe you and I wouldn't put it out there but when there's rampant speculation, I don't think it's out of line to give context to the situation so long as it's true. Jake needs help. I don't know him and I don't know his family but I know enough to know that this is way out of character for him and I hope people can reach out and help him. I don't mean people from CF. I mean people like AJ, PR, WB, and his family.

 

[CloneinWDSM]

Jennert is still on the stage at Headliners to this day.

I was really drunk one night and almost let him tattoo me

 

[ImJustKCClone]

It's most certainly relevant. With that poster, who has constantly defended members of the program, I highly doubt is unsubstantiated. That's my point.

I don't know that poster as well as you apparently do, so I cannot vouch for him as you are. And I'm guessing that you don't know him personally either. Therefore, it IS unsubstantiated as it pertains to the thread. Let me ask you this: does his post as I edited it have any less impact? It still states that Jake's parents have tried to help and Jake has refused.

I don't think I was "jump[ing] on the guy with the likely actual info" as you put it. I simply think that if that poster is as close to the family as he seems to want us to believe, he might consider that they might not want him spreading all his "inside info" around the internet. THAT would be the "piling on" that I was referring to in my post.

You can go ahead and make me out to be the bad guy here, but I disagree with your assessment. I'm confident that I have said nothing in this thread that I would be embarrassed for either Jake or his parents to read.

 

[WooBadger18]

It's most certainly relevant. With that poster, who has constantly defended members of the program, I highly doubt is unsubstantiated. That's my point.



I don't think he did. Maybe you and I wouldn't put it out there but when there's rampant speculation, I don't think it's out of line to give context to the situation so long as it's true. Jake needs help. I don't know him and I don't know his family but I know enough to know that this is way out of character for him and I hope people can reach out and help him. I don't mean people from CF. I mean people like AJ, PR, WB, and his family.

I was assuming it was true. I think it crosses the line because we aren't in a position to help. KC's edit was enough for us, the general public. It's more relevant for AJ, PR, WB, his family and others closer to him to know exactly what's going on, but we, the public, don't need to know about his dirty laundry. It's fine to just say that his parents have tried to get him help.

 

[everyyard]

So say your doctor prescribes it for you? Would you take it? Because that's probably what happened here.

Keep in mind this probably started 5+ years ago, before there was a real public knowledge of the crisis.

Also keep in mind that most people addicted to opiates initially took them for the "right" reasons. (Severe injury, broken bone, surgery, etc).

 

[Al_4_State]

Also keep in mind that most people addicted to opiates initially took them for the "right" reasons. (Severe injury, broken bone, surgery, etc).

Yeah. That's kind of my point. Most opioid addicts aren't just bad decision makers who were looking for a fun time.

 

[GTO]

MODS - Please close thread. Don't know what's more embarrassing: the initial act, or the tons of posts speculating on the situation.

 

[CyCrazy]

MODS - Please close thread. Don't know what's more embarrassing: the initial act, or the tons of posts speculating on the situation.

Jake Knott is not above speculation.

 

[CycoCyclone]

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...tar-jake-knott-jailed-theft-charge/610595001/

According to a criminal complaint, Knott was recorded on video stealing three gun holsters, a gun light, a laser light and other items from Sportsman's Warehouse on Aug. 22. Together those items were valued at over $600.

Four days later, according to the complaint, Knott returned to the store and managers recognized him and called police. While waiting for police, loss prevention officers watched Knott take ammunition for a 9mm, a Bluetooth headset and a keychain.

 

[CloneinWDSM]

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...tar-jake-knott-jailed-theft-charge/610595001/

Speculation

 

[CycloneErik]

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...tar-jake-knott-jailed-theft-charge/610595001/

That's an alarming combination. The Bluetooth headset doesn't make much sense.

EDIT: Hats off to the store employees for recognizing him and working that smartly. That really sounds like a recipe for disaster.

 

[Cybyassociation]

That's an alarming combination. The Bluetooth headset doesn't make much sense.

EDIT: Hats off to the store employees for recognizing him and working that smartly. That really sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Sure it does. Turn around and sell it for cash.

 

[cloneiac]

I was really drunk one night and almost let him tattoo me

 

[ISUMojoMan]

If his parents need help, I'd drive a few hours to support a Jake Knott intervention. Be nice to have a crowd to let him know we understand and stand with him.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

If his parents need help, I'd drive a few hours to support a Jake Knott intervention. Be nice to have a crowd to let him know we understand and stand with him.

I can be the first to say that is a terrible idea. Interventions should be private to family only. I've given one to my sister, and it was hard even with people that they trust. People are all in a tiffy about speculation, but those people have probably never dealt with addiction first hand.

 

[Gossamer]

the sad part is that this will simply become a legal issue and little will come of it in terms of the medical issue it may be. The person involved has to be willing to comply and even if a temporary order is issued to have him held, he'll most likely be left to go about his business within 24 hours.

Speaking from familial experience, it's a very frustrating thing to witness and be part of.

 

[IAStubborn]

That would make a good step number one but breaking an opiod addiction alone is extremely tough. After that he needs to ditch main stream doctors and get some intensive nutrition and supplemental help. I'm about 99% sure that CTE is not really a football only injury. It is simply brain damage that can be caused by numerous factors. Drug use and football together likely make for the combination that resulted in the 100% result for the football players testing positive for CTE.

100% of footall players autopsied for this (actually more like 80% now). Which is an expensive and long process requiring donation of brain to the study, something you do onlynif you suspect CTE. It is a very misleading and self selected sample. We only know that a lot of football players have had it. We don't Know how common it is in general public or how common it is among all former football players and what factors contribute to it (genetic predisposition, other trauma are cretin people likely to get it regardless of sport played etc. Current data is alarming and something that needs to be studies a lot more but for you to be 99% certain abut anything is silly.

 

[cloneiac]

If his parents need help, I'd drive a few hours to support a Jake Knott intervention. Be nice to have a crowd to let him know we understand and stand with him.

LOLOLOL!!!!