Chris, when this announcement happens will you start a new thread? Don’t want to miss the news just because I don’t want to wade through the QB debate
Kempt sixth-year ... any day now
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Chris, when this announcement happens will you start a new thread? Don’t want to miss the news just because I don’t want to wade through the QB debate
Reailze your not comparing them... but one of the two made up for a lack of a big arm by being the one of the most accurate passers in NFL history. If Kempt was accurate in the bowl game (without a big arm) he would've thrown for 500 yards against that secondary.
How about seven? That’s how we usually do it.
But that one bowl game ignores the other games he played in this season. I understand you can't just throw it out but you shouldn't use it as the sole basis for evaluation. If you look at his entire body of work he was accurate and threw a very catchable ball for the receiver group. Sure, the receivers bailed him out with some ridiculous catches here and there but that's the benefit of playing with guys like Lazard and Butler. I'll take a 66% completion percentage from the starting QB all day.
I just don't get some of you guys. The team won more games, with more signature wins, than any ISU team in a long time (or ever). Most of these wins were a direct result of Kempt's play. Yet somehow, several of you now act as if we won in spite of him. Noland, IMO, would not have won the games Kempt won. The staff seems to agree, as they named him (Kempt) starter for each over Noland.
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If anyone fanbase should be cautious of the cult of the backup quarterback it is us. How many quarterbacks have we seen make great debuts only to fizzle out? Park, Richardson, Barnett, Jantz, Tiller, etc. This guy was 5-3 over his 8 games started, and 2 of the 3 losses were under, let's just say, questionable circumstances. He had 15 TDS to 3 interceptions. Realistically speaking, this was probably the best string of QB play we've seen in the last several years.
"Any day now"
Hell I'm still waiting to find out if Tongamoa will play this year
Hell I'm still waiting to find out if Tongamoa will play this year
Agree. If Kempt is granted another year of eligibility, that's awesome news. He has to be the starter. When you consider the games he started against stellar competition (he didn't have the benefit of racking up stats against UNI or Akron), his record has to be up there amongst the greatest Cyclone QBs ever. He helped the team beat some really incredible competition. He did it while keeping a calm demeanor, low turnover ratio, making a lot of good throws and little bit of luck. How can you not start the guy next year?
I am just amazed at some of the people on this board already calling for the "next great thing." Good judgment is knowing something good when you got it and Kempt is good. Sure he doesn't have the arm speed of Nolan (and Nolan is impressive for a youngster), but you HAVE to start the season with Kempt if he gets another year. He's done rare things for a Cyclone QB in only ONE year!
Undoubtedly it was. 5 - 3 against excellent competition. He didn't get to face any patsies.
I don't think so. We will find out if he comes back though, like you said. It looked to me like a lot of those throws were because of perfect timing between Lazard and Kempt. Back shoulder throws, intentional underthrows, etc. That's taught these days and I think they both had an excellent repoire with each other. I could be wrong of course, but I think much of those catches which looked exceptional were purposeful.
Touche. He got to face 1 patsy! Haha.
I was just trying to point out how he went 5 - 3 against the Big XII and a bowl opponent. Has any ISU QB with a sample size of more than 6 games or so ever had that good of a win pct. against the Big XII? I doubt it.
If anyone understands having to earn something its KK. If he gets the 6th year I expect he will bust his tail to get better. I also expect Zeb to do the same and competition between themselves can only be a positive.
CycloneErik
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With our tradition of success with the football, that's just another October around here.
Play the best player after competition. May the best man - who can help the team best - win.
We seem to either have a thread titled "Stuff and Junk" or a thread titled "Is Peavey staying at ISU today, Friday January 2018".
There was a lot of that early on, but in the bowl game, those were straight up bad passes getting caught.
If Kempt was just still sore, that's a great explanation.
From a pure football standpoint I’d love to have Kempt for another year. He is an older guy that can teach the young guys the game. I’d also love to have him as a backup in case Zeb gets hurt.
I worry about him getting it though with the fan base. People are not realistic about his actual abilities. He played about as well as you can expect him to this year. Maybe with the off-season he can work hard and improve a little bit but he is pretty much what he is. In order to build on and sustain the amazing success from this year we need improved quarterback play specifically.
We can absolutely be thrilled with the results he brought us while recognizing the defense and receivers really were the difference this past year. We really have people saying he is the second best Qb in the Big 12 or he has a real chance in the NFL. That just isn’t realistic.
I worry about him getting it though with the fan base. People are not realistic about his actual abilities. He played about as well as you can expect him to this year. Maybe with the off-season he can work hard and improve a little bit but he is pretty much what he is. In order to build on and sustain the amazing success from this year we need improved quarterback play specifically.
We can absolutely be thrilled with the results he brought us while recognizing the defense and receivers really were the difference this past year. We really have people saying he is the second best Qb in the Big 12 or he has a real chance in the NFL. That just isn’t realistic.
I was thinking of the case where your starting QB gets knocked out of a close game.
That was 100% the wind. The wind at field level was horrible.
