NFC Divisional Playoff Game- New Orleans Saints vs. Minnesota Vikings

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This is my favorite picture from last night. The expressions on both Keenum's and Diggs's face are incredible.

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This is my favorite picture from last night. The expressions on both Keenum's and Diggs's face are incredible.

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Yeah, this was my favorite one as well.

The NFL has a laundry list of problems, but you're going to be hard pressed to find another pro sport that produces anywhere near as much postseason drama. Fun game to watch, amazing finish. That's coming from someone who didn't have a dog in the fight.
 

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Yeah, this was my favorite one as well.

The NFL has a laundry list of problems, but you're going to be hard pressed to find another pro sport that produces anywhere near as much postseason drama. Fun game to watch, amazing finish. That's coming from someone who didn't have a dog in the fight.

The NHL and NBA consistently have incredible postseason drama. MLB less so, but that Cubs/Indians Game 7 was ridiculous.

I think that the pro sports leagues lack much regular season drama, but all have pretty solid post-seasons.
 
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Kudos to the Saints players who came back from the locker room for the kneel down. I don't get why they had to though. Is there a rule for a minimum number of players that have to be on the field?
 

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Kudos to the Saints players who came back from the locker room for the kneel down. I don't get why they had to though. Is there a rule for a minimum number of players that have to be on the field?


The only comparable incident I know of is a Bills - Pats game back in 1998. The Bills got flagged for PI as time expired so the Pats got a free play and scored the go-ahead TD with zeros on the clock. The Bills left the sidelines and refused to come back out for the PAT, so Adam Vinatieri took the snap and walked into the end zone for a two point conversion. So maybe they've changed the rules since then, but I don't think it's required. I'm guessing officials went down to the Saints locker room and requested that the team come back out, and a handful of players obliged. That's why New Orleans lined up eight guys for that play and one of them was the punter.
 

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The only comparable incident I know of is a Bills - Pats game back in 1998. The Bills got flagged for PI as time expired so the Pats got a free play and scored the go-ahead TD with zeros on the clock. The Bills left the sidelines and refused to come back out for the PAT, so Adam Vinatieri took the snap and walked into the end zone for a two point conversion. So maybe they've changed the rules since then, but I don't think it's required. I'm guessing officials went down to the Saints locker room and requested that the team come back out, and a handful of players obliged. That's why New Orleans lined up eight guys for that play and one of them was the punter.
The rule I heard today is that if the score occurs during regulation, the XP attempt is required. If it occurs in OT, it does not.

It's pretty clear that the NFL rules have some weak spots in them when stuff like this occurs. For example, there was a penalty on that last play. Diggs took off his helmet, and the ref threw a flag. But, the rules say that a flag thrown at that time does not affect the PAT. The yardage is marked off on the ensuing kickoff. Well, since time had expired, there was no kickoff, so even though there was a flag, there wasn't really a way to penalize the Vikings for it.

Not that it would have changed anything.
 
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The rule I heard today is that if the score occurs during regulation, the XP attempt is required. If it occurs in OT, it does not.


Yeah, the XP attempt is required.

I just don't know if the opposing team is required to come back out and line up for it. If that is a rule I don't know how they'd enforce it. Those players who just lost like that aren't going to give two ***** about a fine for the team. If they don't want to come back out they won't.
 

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Yeah, the XP attempt is required.

I just don't know if the opposing team is required to come back out and line up for it. If that is a rule I don't know how they'd enforce it. Those players who just lost like that aren't going to give two ***** about a fine for the team. If they don't want to come back out they won't.

There are pictures that show only 8 or 9 New Orleans players on the field during the the XP. I don't think there is a minimum defensive players rule, so hypothetically, 1 of them could have stood there for it.
 
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There are pictures that show only 8 or 9 New Orleans players on the field during the the XP. I don't think there is a minimum defensive players rule, so hypothetically, 1 of them could have stood there for it.

I counted eight, including the punter lined up as a defensive lineman.
 
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Yeah, the XP attempt is required.

I just don't know if the opposing team is required to come back out and line up for it. If that is a rule I don't know how they'd enforce it. Those players who just lost like that aren't going to give two ***** about a fine for the team. If they don't want to come back out they won't.

I don't think it's required for them to come back out, unless that rule has been changed in the past several years.

In a Bills/Patriots game in 98, the Pats won on an untimed down. Bills team was disgusted and left the field. Vinatieri came out and walked in for 2 points with no defense. Pats beat the spread on that too I believe.

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2011/6/16/2225057/buffalo-bills-walk-off-foxboro-patriots
 

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Kudos to the Saints players who came back from the locker room for the kneel down. I don't get why they had to though. Is there a rule for a minimum number of players that have to be on the field?
The spread on the game was 5.5. Being that the Vikings took a knee they won by 5 instead of the probable 6 which flipped everything in Vegas.
 
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there was a penalty on that last play. Diggs took off his helmet, and the ref threw a flag.
I saw the ref throw the flag but being that time had expired I wonder if it would actually count. The game was over, players take their helmets off when the game is over. NFL will probably assess a 15 yard penalty against the Vikings on next weeks kickoff.
 
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I saw the ref throw the flag but being that time had expired I wonder if it would actually count. The game was over, players take their helmets off when the game is over. NFL will probably assess a 15 yard penalty against the Vikings on next weeks kickoff.

I don't know this for a fact, but one of things that the officials might have been looking at during the review that made it take longer than expected is whether there was any time left in the game. Diggs crosses the goal line just as the clock on the FOX score tracker turns to 0:00. If there had been a say a second left, those penalties cold have been assessed on the kickoff.
 
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