Your former assistant doing well at Brookings ...

[Cat Stevens]

People like you are the reason we can't have reasonable discussions from both sides of the spectrum on this board. Having a difference of opinion is not hating.

Difference if opinion lie might work if you actually provided complete context.

You guys keep forgetting there’s a history feature on here. Folks were here ripping away last year, then Kansas happened, and instead of enjoying the success of the team, and acknowledging the job the coach did, they disappeared. Then they miraculously reappeared after the Milwaukee game, only to disappear again during the winning streak.

Are you one of those? If you are, then it isn’t a difference of opinion, it’s an agenda.

 

[isubb79]

WRONG

Absolutely it was spin and you would have to be very gullible to not realize that. I am happy with the SP hire. A couple more years like this year and I will be able to sit in the parquet for men's basketball games. Only true koolaid drinkers can't see what is happening with the basketball program. It is interesting that people are already trying to dial back expectations for next year.

 

[CloneFan4]

Difference if opinion lie might work if you actually provided complete context.

You guys keep forgetting there’s a history feature on here. Folks were here ripping away last year, then Kansas happened, and instead of enjoying the success of the team, and acknowledging the job the coach did, they disappeared. Then they miraculously reappeared after the Milwaukee game, only to disappear again during the winning streak.

Are you one of those? If you are, then it isn’t a difference of opinion, it’s an agenda.

You are the one with a clear agenda. Why would anyone outside the inner circles of previous coaching candidates have an agenda against Prohm? The guy is likable in almost every sense of character. There isn't some magical conspiracy of fans on Cyclone Fanatic running a campaign against the guy. Human nature is to run and hide when you've been proven wrong and that has nothing to do with an "agenda" of any sort.

 

[Cyclonepride]

The resume thing is a bit of a weak argument if that is the reason, when they had just hired Hoiberg who had zero coaching resume. Mike Boynton just did a great job with OSU with no head coaching experience and less of a resume than Otz.

Hoiberg left the job better than he found it.

 

[laminak]

Jacks won the Summit for the first time, 13-1. Play South Dakota tonight at 8 on the ESPN2 for a dance card.

Props to KSU fan surly for A+ trolling.
1. Start a thread about success of a former assistant and finalist for ISU job.
2. Sit back and watch the arguments of Prohm vs TJ (with more Hoiberg drama).
3. ???
4. Profit!

 

[WastedTalent]

People like you are the reason we can't have reasonable discussions from both sides of the spectrum on this board. Having a difference of opinion is not hating.

Difference of opinion is fine, there's plenty of that around here. My problem, and probably others, is when posters straight up say they don't want Prohm here, or that he's not good enough for the job.

Disagree with his style or methods, but why say he needs fired, or should have never been hired? None of us know how this is going to go, and compared to Hoiberg's seasons, he has not underachieved, mostly with Fred's players.

The only reason I can see to do this, is so if Prohm does fail, then you can say "I told you so." I just don't get the fandom in that.

 

[Cat Stevens]

You are the one with a clear agenda. Why would anyone outside the inner circles of previous coaching candidates have an agenda against Prohm? The guy is likable in almost every sense of character. There isn't some magical conspiracy of fans on Cyclone Fanatic running a campaign against the guy. Human nature is to run and hide when you've been proven wrong and that has nothing to do with an "agenda" of any sort.

I don’t think this means what you want it to mean.

Yep my agenda is clear. The guy gets a chance to build a program. If he fails, then he will be replaced. You dont know what will happen, and the folks, like you, trying to project the future have a very clear agenda.

And again when we start winning again, you will magically disappear, until the next crisis occurs.

Being happy for TJ winning when he inherited a pretty good situation like Prohm, requires no qualifications. How many times have you discredited Prohm because he won with Fred’s players? This is pretty close to the same thing, but TJ should be admired?

Your defensiveness is pretty telling.

 

[FinalFourCy]

You are the one with a clear agenda. Why would anyone outside the inner circles of previous coaching candidates have an agenda against Prohm? The guy is likable in almost every sense of character. There isn't some magical conspiracy of fans on Cyclone Fanatic running a campaign against the guy. Human nature is to run and hide when you've been proven wrong and that has nothing to do with an "agenda" of any sort.

Nothing brings out those insecure about Prohm like recognizing how well TJ is doing.

I can only imagine how much doubt Cat Stevens must have in Prohm to find it threatening for others to post an optimistic view on how TJ, a guy that has given so much to the program, would do here.

 

[Cat Stevens]

Nothing brings out those insecure about Prohm like recognizing how well TJ is doing.

I can only imagine how much doubt Cat Stevens must have in Prohm to find it threatening for others to post an optimistic view on how TJ, a guy that has given so much to the program, would do here.

Speaking of agendas.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Speaking of agendas.

Some day I’ll have you believing in the program.

 

[CloneFan4]

I don’t think this means what you want it to mean.

Yep my agenda is clear. The guy gets a chance to build a program. If he fails, then he will be replaced. You dont know what will happen, and the folks, like you, trying to project the future have a very clear agenda.

And again when we start winning again, you will magically disappear, until the next crisis occurs.

Being happy for TJ winning when he inherited a pretty good situation like Prohm, requires no qualifications. How many times have you discredited Prohm because he won with Fred’s players? This is pretty close to the same thing, but TJ should be admired?

Your defensiveness is pretty telling.

I've been vocally upset about Prohm on several occasions and you can shame me all you want but I stand before you today to eat some crow.

The amount of mental strength it took for that man to persevere and go through that really tough stretch and to have this team playing incredible basketball down the stretch is awesome. They are night and days difference between what they were a month and a half ago. Hats off to you Coach Prohm.

Now please stfu

 

[WastedTalent]

Nothing brings out those insecure about Prohm like recognizing how well TJ is doing.

I can only imagine how much doubt Cat Stevens must have in Prohm to find it threatening for others to post an optimistic view on how TJ, a guy that has given so much to the program, would do here.

He also may have failed here. What if he was here, and didn't make the tournament last year? It works both ways.

 

[flynnhicks03]

Hoiberg left the job better than he found it.

Exactly. There's a big difference between taking a guy with no experience when your program is in the shitter vs. taking someone with no experience when you have a very talented team coming back.

 

[ISUChippewa]

You are the one with a clear agenda. Why would anyone outside the inner circles of previous coaching candidates have an agenda against Prohm? The guy is likable in almost every sense of character. There isn't some magical conspiracy of fans on Cyclone Fanatic running a campaign against the guy. Human nature is to run and hide when you've been proven wrong and that has nothing to do with an "agenda" of any sort.

I do agree with you that there isn't a "magical conspiracy" of Cyclone fans on here trying to run Prohm out of town, but there are at least a few "fans" who have been pretty transparent in their dislike and disapproval of him as coach and who would be more than happy to see him go. Mainly, IMO, it mostly comes down to him not being Fred. And while they are certainly a minority of fans on here, they are an extremely vocal and loud minority.

 

[Cyched]

 

[FinalFourCy]

He also may have failed here. What if he was here, and didn't make the tournament last year? It works both ways.

Lol, sure. Yes, any coach may fail in different circumstances, as we’ve seen this year. Your point? If you’re that threatened by viewing that the most likely outcome is that TJ would have succeeded, I suggest not opening these threads.

They were similar candidates. Posting how well TJ is doing and having an optimistic view on the program he’d have here is completely benign. How one reacts to that may be indicative of the confidence one has in Prohm. I happen to think most coaches will do well here, although circumstance can derail even good ones like McD.

 

[peteypie]

Believe what you want. I figured you were smarter than that though. And I know TJ is smarter than someone who would leave a job and come to a place for a month knowing that his boss was going to leave right away and therefore he could easily and likely would be out of a job in June.

And if Fred Hoiberg knew who in the hell Steve Prohm was before pollard texted him the “quote” they were going to release, I’ll route for the bulls for the rest of my days.

Steve has said he used to call Hoiberg about plays, soooooo ya I guess you should "route" for the bulls now.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Lol, sure. Yes, any coach may fail in different circumstances, as we’ve seen this year. Your point? If you’re that threatened by viewing that the most likely outcome is that TJ would have succeeded, I suggest not opening these threads.

They were similar candidates. Posting how well TJ is doing and having an optimistic view on the program he’d have here is completely benign. How one reacts to that may be indicative of the confidence one has in Prohm. I happen to think most coaches will do well here, although circumstance can derail even good ones like McD.

Says the guy that takes a veiled potshot at Coach Prohm in nearly every post.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Lol, sure. Yes, any coach may fail in different circumstances, as we’ve seen this year. Your point? If you’re that threatened by viewing that the most likely outcome is that TJ would have succeeded, I suggest not opening these threads.

They were similar candidates. Posting how well TJ is doing and having an optimistic view on the program he’d have here is completely benign. How one reacts to that may be indicative of the confidence one has in Prohm. I happen to think most coaches will do well here, although circumstance can derail even good ones like McD.

I think the way you are reacting to the reactions is very telling. Oh man now the way I’m reacting to the way you are reacting to the initial reactions is telling on me! Glad you think you’re a pshycological genius though...reactions?

 

[WastedTalent]

Lol, sure. Yes, any coach may fail in different circumstances, as we’ve seen this year. Your point? If you’re that threatened by viewing that the most likely outcome is that TJ would have succeeded, I suggest not opening these threads.

They were similar candidates. Posting how well TJ is doing and having an optimistic view on the program he’d have here is completely benign. How one reacts to that may be indicative of the confidence one has in Prohm. I happen to think most coaches will do well here, although circumstance can derail even good ones like McD.

Its speculation. The same thing we're doing with Prohm, on both sides. You're really hard to follow.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Its speculation. The same thing we're doing with Prohm, on both sides. You're really hard to follow.

@FinalFourCy is a pretty decent troll. I’ve never had the time to go over the timeline of that username but I always get the sense it is dognuts that learned a lesson after we ran that username off.