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I'm dusting off the Webster's Unabridged, it's about to get rowdy.
I am not trying to take away the success that TJ has already had at SDSU, but he was gifted an all american in Mike Daum who is the perfect stretch four for TJ and the kind of offensive sets he wants to run. I am sure he has run a lot of plays for him, similar to the way we used Niang.
Very good point. I was thinking the exact same thing while watching the game. Daum is a special player and it will be interesting to see how TJ does without him (whether that be next year or a couple years from now). With that said, the question about TJ was not so much could he get the talent, but could he be an effective coach that developed players and provided worthy in game coaching. At least so far, he appears to have shown his worth in these areas while at SDSU.
My concern about Prohm was whether he could recruit at major conference level and specifically to the Midwest. Again at least so far, Prohm has shown his worth in his ability to recruit to ISU.
I don’t know if the situation will ever arise that TJ coaches at ISU. The timing would have to be right on both ends. But regardless, I will always cheer for TJ to have success.
David Jenkins is a hell of a find for TJ. And he has done a good job increasing Daum’s 3P rate from 21% to 38%. In fact, the first eight guys in the rotation combine for 44% 3Pr.
Congrats to Coach Otz. He was a big part in ISU's resurgence in hoops.
One of these things is not like the other. UConn is no longer a better job than ISU.
The resume thing is a bit of a weak argument if that is the reason, when they had just hired Hoiberg who had zero coaching resume. Mike Boynton just did a great job with OSU with no head coaching experience and less of a resume than Otz.
CycloneErik
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It was my argument at the time, but you have a solid point there.
I figured that we were at a point that experience was needed to take those next steps. I hope I was right, but we'll see.
What argument are you talking about? I'm saying it wasn't a snub and it wasn't. TJ didn't have a good enough resume to get the Wisconsin GB or Drake job for goodness sakes and he was a finalist for the ISU job. There is no way you can say picking a proven head coach like Prohm over TJ was a snub. TJ got more than a fair shot and just missed out because supposedly Prohm was seriously impressive in the interview. I think the fact TJ stuck around for a year as Prohm's assistant proves he didn't feel snubbed.
I don't think it was a snub. I am just saying the resume argument doesn't really hold water.
When we hired hoiberg we were at a low as a program. When we hired prohm we were at a high. The resume argument does hold water. The situations were very different.
JP took a HUGE chance on Hoiberg, but he was able to sell it because it was The Frickin Mayor. He doesn't get nearly as much leeway with TJ. TJ got more than a fair shake in the coaching search, Prohm had a better resume and has done quite well.
I think it's asinine for people to assume TJ is a better coach than Prohm based on one bad year for CSP.
