First play after a turnover

CycloneVet

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Quite a few starts isn’t much. We start a redshirt freshman and a 279lb walkon that was on the scout team defensive line at this time a year ago. JGJ is in his first year at LT.

There’s no KO for the guys to rely on. We also ask them to do things they’re not naturally good at and make it easy on the defense.

Speaking of KO although great he had is share of holding calls/false starts at critical times. Obviously a beast otherwise
 

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I'm sorry, you'd think we lost by reading this thread. It's easy to sit in the stands and watch on TV and be a critic. All I'm saying is Campbell and staff know a little bit more about football than any of us. You have to keep the defense honest. Not saying that nobody is allowed to have an opinion, but let's pick our battles. We won for pete's sake.

Well, my name's not Pete. Next time, they should win for my sake.
 
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I'd like to see DM around the end a bit more. Not sure if the TEs aren't getting a good seal, or what is happening, but I haven't seen Monty lose yards very often around the end.
 
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I'd like to see DM around the end a bit more. Not sure if the TEs aren't getting a good seal, or what is happening, but I haven't seen Monty lose yards very often around the end.
Yeah, we were talking at the game about so many runs up the middle. I was saying I would like to see more runs off tackle mixed in. The very next play Tech lines up on defense with a shift to ISU's right with the DE lined up on the left tackle's inside shoulder and no outside linebacker to be found on that side. I thought, "Look at all that room to run off tackle to the left side." ISU ran Montgomery right up the middle again between the center and right guard. I think a few runs off tackle might loosen things up for Montgomery on the inside.
 
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Yeah, we were talking at the game about so many runs up the middle. I was saying I would like to see more runs off tackle mixed in. The very next play Tech lines up on defense with a shift to ISU's right with the DE lined up on the left tackle's inside shoulder and no outside linebacker to be found on that side. I thought, "Look at all that room to run off tackle to the left side." ISU ran Montgomery right up the middle again between the center and right guard. I think a few runs off tackle might loosen things up for Montgomery on the inside.

The Rams ran a play for Gurley to ice the game yesterday afternoon against the Packers, that I think could be really well emulated by ISU and Montgomery...

 

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[QUOTE="FinalFourCy, post: 6365220, member: 37336"]Are you suggesting are offense is fundamentally flawed? I don’t completely disagree, but we do have the ability to show run and then pass. We’ve used it successfully at times.[/QUOTE]


I do completely disagree. I know this offense will develop only if the offensive line learns how to grind out yards. I saw an undermanned Toledo team eek out 3.4 yards on 24 carries against Arkansas and win 16-12. Threw 38 times. The throws got us the win, but the runs saved us from losing big. Just enough run play success to beat a more talented SEC team.
 

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I can drink allot of Busch light anytime because it is cheap or I have to stay sober longer but enjoy the taste of some top shelf stuff. If you don't get my drift, I'll be more direct. CMC by attitude is leading this group for the long haul. Maybe, 'we will run the darn ball down their throats today, tomorrow, etc etc.
None of us knows what he communicates with them. We need to leave it go and TRUST THE PROCESS.

Just my Midwest opinion. :cool:

I've seen you say things like this before. I have to ask, do you not think Iowa is in the Midwest? Because if you ask me (and probably most people on here) Iowa is the epitome of Midwest, and Ohio barely makes the cut being as far east as you can go without being considered East Coast.

Just my Midwest opinion (even though I live in Colorado now) :cool:
 
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I do completely disagree. I know this offense will develop only if the offensive line learns how to grind out yards. I saw an undermanned Toledo team eek out 3.4 yards on 24 carries against Arkansas and win 16-12. Threw 38 times. The throws got us the win, but the runs saved us from losing big. Just enough run play success to beat a more talented SEC team.
This isn’t the MAC vs SEC and banging your head against the wall until you have a hammer isn’t optimal.
 

FinalFourCy

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SO? Why not, we need our line to be as tough as a hammer.
So, comparing our games to Toledo vs SEC teams doesn’t support your contention.
Not as much as we need better production if we are to maximize this roster’s win total.
 

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I've seen you say things like this before. I have to ask, do you not think Iowa is in the Midwest? Because if you ask me (and probably most people on here) Iowa is the epitome of Midwest, and Ohio barely makes the cut being as far east as you can go without being considered East Coast.

Just my Midwest opinion (even though I live in Colorado now) :cool:
Don't get him started on that again. He doesn't think anything west of the Mississippi is Midwest. But let's not ruin this thread discussing it.
 
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Cardinal and Gold

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Don't get him started on that again. He doesn't think anything west of the Mississippi is Midwest. But let's not ruin this thread discussing it.
My apologies. I was unaware that this was already a thing. Geography must not be a point of focus there. Ohio is the potato state, right? Or is it the gem state?;)
 

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We won because we were able to run the ball and TT wasn't. Their freshman quarterback was put in a lot more precarious positions than our freshman quarterback because we ran the ball more with more success. There is a lot more value to running the ball consistently than the yards you gain per play. We passed approximately 33% of the time on first down and I'm guessing they were pretty successful passes with relatively low risk because the defense was expecting run. Pretty ideal mix I'd say. I guess scoring 40 isn't enough. Some of you internet geniuses should put in your OC resumes with Campbell.
 

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Yeah, lets quit this crap! Lets go back to doing what CPR did when we got a turnover, we were a lot better back then!!!!

Do I need to say jimlad?

Seriously folks, we can seem to complain about a lot of things. If we win the game, I quit complaining instantly. All I care about. We could run 50 draw plays, and if we win, I don't care anymore.

This is the exact same thing that got Rhoads in trouble. He was even worse at predictability after a turnover. I was complaining some but also curious as to why this would be a game plan. I know we have plenty of people with football savvy. Beyond wanting to prove we can run what does doing this over and over again accomplish.
 

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