What happened on the first foul? TV didn't really cover it.
Does anyone have a link to video? How could it have been so bad?
you don't get ejected from a ******* game for "venting your emotions" unless you're doing something incredibly wrong.
If you have virtually back to back personal fouls with one of them being blatant in the endzone, than yes, yes you do.
So you're saying he did something right? If you'll read my post, I specifically mention he did something wrong. I'd call two personal fouls doing something wrong.
I am glad it isn't my decision what to do with LJ. I don't know how I feel about him right now, or what I want to happen to him. All I know is that I was incredibly embarrassed in the crowd, as was every other Cyclone fan within sight (and there were hundreds).
Why couldn't his actions been the result of losing control of his emotions?
And what about the PF the UNLV lineman got after the play was dead for at least 5 seconds. Should that player be kicked off the team for throwing a guy down to the ground?
I would put this in the game thread, but this is really a topic that goes beyond just the UNLV game.
I don't think LJ is a bad person. I think he's a very talented player. But he has GOT to learn how to play football instead of just hitting, and he's going to have to learn his lesson when it comes to personal fouls.
That cheap shot in the endzone is inexcusable. It goes well beyond being aggressive. It's a lack of respect for the opposition, the game of football, the ISU football team, and Iowa State University.
He embarrassed our entire program and university with that play, and he hurt his team.
I honestly don't think it's too far to kick him off the team, but I think giving him a chance to lean from his mistakes is important too. After all, he's a young kid who has a lot to learn beyond just about the game of football.
That being said, what do you guys think?
Without reading the rest of the responses, here's my answer. Leonard Johnson is without a doubt (in my mind, at least) the best cover corner we've had in years. He's got the Bob Sanders mentality of hitting at all costs. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
Let's take a look back at his last three personal fouls. The one against iowa was pretty much a crock, in my mind, at least. He may have ended up with some violent contact on Moeaki, but that was not his intention, until the TE lowered his head, and caused them both a lot of damage. His first personal foul tonight was pretty weak. He swung at the guy, who pulled a Duke BBall player flop, drawing the PF. Obviously, the cheap shot on the QB was pretty intentional and uncalled for. And he should definitely be punished for it.
Loooong story short, he's suspended for this game and next anyway. Should he be suspended for anymore? Hell no. This suspension is entirely acceptable for what he did. Was it the biggest cheap shot ever? Hardly. It was probably the best hit we made all day as a team. Although it was entirely cheap. And we paid the rest of the game by not having a sure tackler out on the ends the rest of the game.
I think that Leonard Johnson is just a hard nosed football player, that is just learning how to play the game. As Chizik has said, it's hard to teach kids how to tone it down in a game situation. They've been taught their entire life how to make the big hits. At what point do you have to teach them to back off and not make those hits. There's a fine line. I think that LJ's going to learn his lesson and will possibly end up being one of the best DB's that we ever see at ISU. He's already lightyears ahead of any DB we've had in the 20+ years I've watched ISU football. At least in his first few games...
LJ reminds me of a safty for Oklahoma a few years back. Brandon Everage. He had some of the most vicious hits ive ever seen in college football. I remember multiple times, he would have a chance for a pick, but would turn it down to completely destroy the unprotected reciever. Sometimes knocking them out of the game. Most of the hits were clean, some not-so-much. Everage just loved hit hit/hurt people, and LJ seems to be turning into a young Everage. His late hit tonight was totally uncalled for and wrong. Make him run til he vomits, and when he does tell him next time... smoke him before he scores. Personally, I was embarrassed that he laid the hit, but so thrilled and proud that he WANTED to lay the hit. I believe that the extensive number of personal fouls is due to a team that has totally changed their game-time attitude, and is having trouble adjusting their actions accordingly. Its a very exciting time to be a cyclone...we finally are getting players that want to punish the other team just for showing up.
Oh yeah, Everage got a ring...and I believe is now playing on Sundays. Not saying but just saying.
After reading some of these responses, I just have to LOL. All of these same people will blah blah blah about wanting a winning program. But, when a guy gets a personal foul, they want him off the team.