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surly said:
I suspect the NCAA will vacate Ku wins and, presumably, titles affected by DeSousa playing there. From Yahoo Sports:

Thus the De Sousa information, and the conversation regarding Williamson, is expected to lead to a thorough vetting by NCAA Enforcement once the legal part of the federal basketball corruption case is complete. Kansas is expected to be one of many schools that the NCAA will closely examine in the wake of the federal investigation.


I also believe many J'hawk fans are growing weary of Bill Self and his cheating ways. Would not be surprised to see him move on to the NBA after this season. From a Ku fan on one of their boards:


I expect more to come from this as well. I am guessing we vacate last years Final 4, and 14th league title. Self blasted the NCAA, they won't hold back now. I think the end is near for Self here as well. I think all the fine lines and grey areas he has manipulated in the past is all going to catch up with him now. Don't know how I honestly feel about any of this, except sorry for Silvio, I think he was not a part of this activity.

Are we the only ones guilty of such wrong doing.....I don't think so. Are we a good scape goat to flush down the drain to prove a point, I think very much so.
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Let me guess, Mizzou alum Pat Forde? Chuckle. And a big old LOL to the overanxious KU fan spazzimg out. Bad stretches like this bring all the doom and gloomers out of the woodwork.

If the NCAA was going to punish KU for this DeSousa mess, it would have been announced when the DeSousa penalty was announced. This is done. Kansas will adjust and move forward.

On to the next game.
 
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From the NCAA:

“when a prospective student-athlete allows a third party to involve himself in the recruitment process, the prospective student-athlete is then responsible for the actions of that person, regardless of whether the prospective student-athlete had knowledge or if benefits were received.”

This seems entirely reasonable to me. You can't let a player get benefits (KU scholarship) based on recruiting violations, regardless about whether the player knew all about it or not.
 
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FinalFourCy said:
Random is so far up Self/Roy/Brown's ass that he genuinely believes KU's success isn't due to decades of being dirty, while also claiming how corrupt the system is.
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Kansas has benefitted from it some and been hurt by it some. Not beimg Nike has cost KU a ton of recruits. We've only been with Adidas for a few years. I think we were still Nike when we won the title in 2008.
 
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randomfan44 said:
Let me guess, Mizzou alum Pat Forde? Chuckle. And a big old LOL to the overanxious KU fan spazzimg out. Bad stretches like this bring all the doom and gloomers out of the woodwork.

If the NCAA was going to punish KU for this DeSousa mess, it would have been announced when the DeSousa penalty was announced. This is done. Kansas will adjust and move forward.

On to the next game.
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You realize that these are two different committees that determine player eligibility and institutional infractions. So one committee may be done and another is still gathering information to make a determination.
 
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ArgentCy said:
They'll get a small fine if anything. Unlikely though as the SEC is as asleep on these issues as the $EC.
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No. If I recall that is part of several the legal cases the bureau has brought.
 
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surly said:
I suspect the NCAA will vacate Ku wins and, presumably, titles affected by DeSousa playing there. From Yahoo Sports:

Thus the De Sousa information, and the conversation regarding Williamson, is expected to lead to a thorough vetting by NCAA Enforcement once the legal part of the federal basketball corruption case is complete. Kansas is expected to be one of many schools that the NCAA will closely examine in the wake of the federal investigation.


I also believe many J'hawk fans are growing weary of Bill Self and his cheating ways. Would not be surprised to see him move on to the NBA after this season. From a Ku fan on one of their boards:


I expect more to come from this as well. I am guessing we vacate last years Final 4, and 14th league title. Self blasted the NCAA, they won't hold back now. I think the end is near for Self here as well. I think all the fine lines and grey areas he has manipulated in the past is all going to catch up with him now. Don't know how I honestly feel about any of this, except sorry for Silvio, I think he was not a part of this activity.

Are we the only ones guilty of such wrong doing.....I don't think so. Are we a good scape goat to flush down the drain to prove a point, I think very much so.
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Great, Hoiberg to KU
 
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randomfan44 said:
No, they don't. Kansas switched to Adidas because Adidas pays more tham Nike and included more sports in their package of uniforms they covered.

Unfortunately, Nike is now in a position where they could lowball Kansas knowing how bad we want to leave Adidas. A sucky business all around.
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I meant for recruits
 
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bosco said:
And all the Fred fan boys here could become Jayhawk fans.
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Well, Chuckd4735 would have some company then.

"I've said it before and I'll say it again. I want ISU to end the streak. KU can win 100 straight and I'm OK." Chuckd4735
 
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randomfan44 said:
Kansas has benefitted from it some and been hurt by it some. Not beimg Nike has cost KU a ton of recruits. We've only been with Adidas for a few years. I think we were still Nike when we won the title in 2008.
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So let me get this straight, you do not have any problem with a shoe company agreeing to direct players to a school as part of the agreement for the school to sign a contract with the shoe company because the other big name programs are going the same thing? As long as your team is successful and does not get caught, no problem.
 
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randomfan44 said:
Stop, thats silly. We all know Nike is paying kids too. They just have 100x more money and experience doing it so their system is a lot more refined. So keeping a relationship with them means the same thing.
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Does it really matter if Nike or under armor is also paying players? We know that adidas was, and Kansas and Louisville benefitted from the arrangement.

I think this was one of the main reason Fred left ISU, he saw the unlevel playing field that the shoe companies were providing the elite programs, and no matter how hard he recruited a kid, in the end money mattered to most of them, and he knew ISU would/could not go down that road.

A Kansas athlete was caught excepting cash to play for UK, it does not matter were the case came from. The kid is placed on prohibition, and nothing happens to Kansas, that is just wrong, and its been going on forever. And the worst part is the NCAA know all about it, and does nothing to the schools, and then turns arounds and hammers a school like Missouri that had one person writing papers for athletes.
 
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randomfan44 said:
Kansas has benefitted from it some and been hurt by it some. Not beimg Nike has cost KU a ton of recruits. We've only been with Adidas for a few years. I think we were still Nike when we won the title in 2008.
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They were with Adidas in 2008.
 
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surly said:
Well, Chuckd4735 would have some company then.

"I've said it before and I'll say it again. I want ISU to end the streak. KU can win 100 straight and I'm OK." Chuckd4735
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So because he doesn't want KSt or any other team besides Iowa St to break the streak, then he's a KU fan?
 
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