Early Thoughts On Next Season?

[ForeverIowan]

I think finding the one and done works very with an already established foundation at the ISU level. Last year while not truly young, had basically never played together. Once you have a solid foundation the one and done can propel you to the next level

Yep Bingo. Hate to dig up ghosts of the past but Hoiberg hit the nail on the head with the recruitment of Vaughn and Diallo when he already had his core of Morris, Thomas, Long, Niang, McKay, Nader.

 

[Cat Stevens]

Yep Bingo. Hate to dig up ghosts of the past but Hoiberg hit the nail on the head with the recruitment of Vaughn and Diallo when he already had his core of Morris, Thomas, Long, Niang, McKay, Nader.

He would have taken both of them in heartbeat. Apparently outbid for Vaughn, and couldn’t promise diallo he’d be here.

 

[Cat Stevens]

Yep Bingo. Hate to dig up ghosts of the past but Hoiberg hit the nail on the head with the recruitment of Vaughn and Diallo when he already had his core of Morris, Thomas, Long, Niang, McKay, Nader.

When Diallo visited they had a book prepared for him on how they were going to make him the first pick in the draft the following season.

 

[Thompsonclone]

Leech has a lot of upside. He could surprise a lot of people that forgot about him after the break. I expect him to start pending his health.

Here’s a few highlights from his senior year.

 

[fredisgod]

Players are always interested in 2 promises.
1. You will start.
2. You won't be asked to play defense.

 

[Jkclone15]

Here’s a few highlights from his senior year.

Anyone else notice he does a funky little kick with his left leg when shooting a 3?

 

[Hayes30]

Anyone else notice he does a funky little kick with his left leg when shooting a 3?

Alot of people do. The best way to defend it is the kinda bump that leg becasue the shot will never drop if you do that.

 

[Frak]

In a podcast CW did with Prohm, Prohm commented something along the lines of ~we could go two bigs 10 or 15 mpg next year~. Which I thought was... interesting. As of right now we certainly don’t have 4 guards worthy of playing big minutes. If we want to be competitive, that is.

It all depends on how Jacobson improves his 3 point shot and how Griffin develops. Those are the only 2 guys on the roster that can play the 4. Solo and Condit can't play there...they'd be abused guarding the perimeter and teams wouldn't respect their outside shot. I think that Anderson is not going to be ready to play major minutes and Leech is more of a 3 for now. If they could find a grad transfer wing that could guard most 4's, that might be a nice addition. Not many teams we play have a real post-up 4.

 

[Thompsonclone]

Anyone else notice he does a funky little kick with his left leg when shooting a 3?

Seems to only do it when he’s shooting off the bounce. His catch and shoot is pretty simple.

 

[Sigmapolis]

Last year, Barttorvik put projections up for next year/this year using known roster compositions, some model projecting the improvement of returning players and transfers, and another model to project the influence that incoming freshmen would have.

They have not unlocked the "full" version of their 2020 projections, but they are at least giving overall rankings and offense/defense rankings right now...



#33 overall
#21 offense
#55 defense

The defense stays the same, while the offense degrades. I remember seeing this closer to #15 overall a week or two ago. I assume they have updated it for the loss of Horton-Tucker and Wigginton, which certainly reduce our offensive potential next season.

For context, their teams in that range this year were...

#30 Oklahoma -- #9 seed
#31 Clemson -- missed it
#32 Penn State -- missed it
#33 Oregon -- #12 seed
#34 Saint Mary's -- #11 seed
#35 Nevada -- #7 seed
#36 Syracuse -- #8 seed

So I guess that project as a... slightly above bubble team, roughly?

I am not going to make too many presumptions until I see the above including more details and a finalized roster for the spring, however. We probably have at least one man who could be in the rotation (if not starting) not part of the team right now.

I find this encouraging, though. The #33 team in the country should be in the hunt for the NCAA tournament, assuming we end up with roughly that net efficiency as a team.

 

[ISUCubswin]

He didn’t have to publicly apologize. He did because that’s the kind of guy he is.

I feel like we're mixing things up here.

Prohm is 10x the human I'll ever be.

My argument is that Lindell Wigginton likely didn't see eye to eye with Prohm. My guess is if Lindell loved being the 6th man, Prohm would've have apologized to Lindell, as Lindell performed great as a 6th man.

Posters who think Lindell and Prohm got along all fine and dandy are just flat out wrong. Not that that's Prohm's fault, not that that's Lindell's fault.

 

[Messi]

Isu a 4 seed

 

[motorcy90]

expecting another year of .500 or below in conference honestly. maybe a higher seed 8+ in the tourney with another 1st round exit. sorry but not sold on prohm making improvements at all.

 

[Thompsonclone]

Isu a 4 seed

Woof. I don’t think Lunardi has any idea that Iowa State lost NWB, Shayok, Lard, Wigginton, THT after finishing 9-9 and bring in the 9th ranked Big 12 class. Going to be an uphill battle to make the tournament. We are going to need 3-4 players to be way better than we all expect them to be.

 

[Sigmapolis]

Woof. I don’t think Lunardi has any idea that Iowa State lost NWB, Shayok, Lard, Wigginton, THT after finishing 9-9 and bring in the 9th ranked Big 12 class. Going to be an uphill battle to make the tournament. We are going to need 3-4 players to be way better than we all expect them to be.

We're due for a year where we overachieve.

Stone cold lock of the century. Of the week.

 

[Cat Stevens]

expecting another year of .500 or below in conference honestly. maybe a higher seed 8+ in the tourney with another 1st round exit. sorry but not sold on prohm making improvements at all.

Think how much time you’ll save not having to watch then.

 

[clonefreek]

I dont see how we even make the tournament at this point in time. Wigginton and THT dont come back theres no way this roster plus incoming class as it stands makes up for that scoring.

 

[brokenloginagain]

you never know....

baylor and OU were supposed to be horrible and both made the rd of 32.

b12 coaches put TTech 7th in the preseason conf poll.

 

[IASTATE07]

you never know....

baylor and OU were supposed to be horrible and both made the rd of 32.

b12 coaches put TTech 7th in the preseason conf poll.

Agreed. Let's see how the roster finishes out. The roster as is is at least made up of P5 guys and not desperation moves.

 

[surly]

Added in more transfers and NBA entrees. Credit: OPCat

Iowa State - Guaranteed loss of 105 game starts
Marial Shayok - 34 games started. 32.9 mpg. 18.7 ppg
Nick Weiler-Babb - 35 games started. 34.4 mpg. 9.1 ppg
Cameron Lard (transfer) - 0 games started. 12.5 mpg. 5.6 ppg
Talen Horton-Tucker (declared for NBA draft) - 34 games started. 27.2 mpg. 11.8 ppg
Lindell Wigginton (declared for NBA early) - 2 games started. 26.0 mpg. 13.4 ppg

Texas Tech - Guaranteed loss of 101 game starts, possibly 135
Matt Mooney - 34 games started. 30.4 mpg. 10.0 ppg
Tariq Owens - 33 games started. 25.2 mpg. 8.9 ppg
Brandone Francis - 1 game started. 13.5 mpg. 6.2 ppg
Norense Odiase - 33 games started. 17.3 mpg. 4.3 ppg
Jarrett Culver (possibly NBA early - mock lottery pick) - 34 games started. 32.1 mpg. 18.8 ppg

Kansas State - Guaranteed loss of 91 game starts, possibly 124
Barry Brown - 34 games started. 35 mpg. 14.6 ppg
Kamau Stokes - 32 games started. 32.3 mg. 11.0 ppg
Dean Wade - 25 games started. 30.4 mpg. 12.9 ppg
Xavier Sneed (possibly NBA early) - 33 games started. 30.7 mpg. 10.6 ppg
Goodnews Kpegeol (transfer) - Redshirt

Oklahoma - Guaranteed loss of 87 game starts
Christian James - 34 games started. 33.1 mpg. 14.6 ppg
Rashard Odomes - 15 games started. 17.4 mpg. 6.9 ppg
Miles Reynolds - 7 games started. 20.2 mpg. 6.7 ppg
Aaron Calixte - 19 games started. 21.1 mpg. 6.6 ppg
Jamuni McNeace - 11 games started. 15.2 mpg. 4.7 ppg
Matt Freeman (transfer) - 1 game started. 11.1 mpg, 3.2 ppg

TCU - Guaranteed loss of 78 game starts
Alex Robinson - 35 games started. 34.8 mpg. 12.6 ppg
JD Miller - 35 games started. 30.9 mpg. 10.9 ppg
Yuat Alok (transfer) - 0 games started. 13.1 mpg, 3.3 ppg
Kaden Archie (transfer) - 0 games started. 10.1 mpg. 2.1 ppg
Jaylen Fisher (transfer) - 8 games started. 24.1 mpg. 12.1 ppg
Angus McWilliam (transfer) - 0 games started. 3.0 mpg. 0.0 ppg

West Virginia - Guaranteed loss of 75 game starts, possibly 82
Esa Ahmad - 22 games started. 28.1 mpg. 12.0 ppg
Lamont West (transfer) - 20 games started. 24.9 mpg. 11.1 ppg
Wesley Harris (kicked off team) - 17 games started. 25.2 mpg. 7.9 ppg
Sagaba Konate (possibly NBA early - mock 2nd round pick) - 7 games started. 24.1 mpg. 13.6 ppg
James Bolden (transfer) - 12 games started - 21.4 mpg. 12.2 ppg
Trey Doomes (transfer) - 0 games started. 3.8 mpg. 2.2 ppg
Andrew Gordon (transfer) - 4 games started. 7.0 mpg. 2.3 ppg

Baylor - Guaranteed loss of 68 game starts
Makai Mason - 28 games started. 32.1 mpg. 14.9 ppg
King McCulre - 26 games started. 27.9 mpg. 9.0 ppg
Jake Lindsey - 14 games started. 23.4 mpg. 4.5 ppg

Kansas - Guaranteed loss of 57 game starts, possibly 66
Lagerald Vick - 20 games started. 33.0 mpg. 14.1 ppg
Charlie Moore (transfer) - 1 game started. 13.1 mpg. 2.9 ppg
KJ Lawson (transfer) - 0 games started. 9.9 mpg. 3.1 ppg
Udoka Azubuike (possibly NBA early - mock 2nd round pick) - 9 games started. 20.4 mpg. 13.4 ppg
Dedric Lawson (declared for NBA early) - 36 games started. 32.6 mpg. 19.4 ppg
Silvo De Sousa (suspended)

Texas - Guaranteed loss of 56 game starts, possibly 77
Kerwin Roach - 23 games started. 29.4 mpg. 14.3 ppg
Dylan Osetkowski - 33 games started. 28.7 mpg. 10.7 ppg
Jaxson Hayes (possibly NBA early - mock 1st round pick) - 21 games started. 23.3 mpg. 10.0 ppg

Oklahoma State - Guaranteed loss of 0 game starts
Mike Cunningham - 0 games started. 18.3 mpg. 8.0 ppg
Kentrevious Jones (kicked off team) - 0 games started. 6.9 mpg. 1.3 ppg
Maurice Calloo (kicked off team) - 0 games started. 10.8 mpg. 2.5 ppg
Michael Weathers (kicked off team) - 0 games started. 20.5 mpg. 9.2 ppg