Even if is isn't unstoppable, the potential for highlight-reel material would be extremely high, me-thinks.
***Official Montgomery and Butler NFL Thread***
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Even if is isn't unstoppable, the potential for highlight-reel material would be extremely high, me-thinks.
Those two guys are the same height or shorter than Butler. They are slightly larger and fast for a TE but they ran slower 40's than Butler. It is just not consistent. Noah Fant and Butler have pretty similar numbers but different positions.
It's all about the past. These people are too scared of losing their jobs. So the history of Iowa TE or OL gives them an excuse. That is all. It's just a bit of a bias towards their comfort zone. It is not an anti-ISU bias.
Idk if it would be unstoppable but a healthy combo of Kelce-Watkins-Butler would be pretty dangerous.
Location rotation is probably a good move. Anchoring it in NYC, though, had at least one amusing element for me: Jets fans frequently react like each draft choice their team makes is an atrocity.
Yeah ISU is 16-33 during our current draft drought. It's not because of bias. It's because we haven't had NFL quality players.
I think Montgomery is a lot more likely to make an impact next year, it usually takes Wide Receivers a couple years to get going in the NFL.
Wouldn't mind seeing DM to Detroit in the 3rd round. A Kerryon Johnson-Montgomery tandem with Hockinson setting the edge with a team that's trying to build a Seattle-style "run first" offense/win with defense? Yes please. He'd thrive in the kind of system they're trying to build.
Uggh, I put the Lions up there with the Redskins, Bengals, Dolphins and Browns, holding out hope he's there when the Bears draft in the 3rd round.
It's an inexact science for sure, but it's also incorrect and lazy to argue that teams don't spend a **** load of money and resources on scouting and evaluation (except the Bengals). For every bust player you name there's a late round pick who went on to a great NFL career, and that doesn't happen without some area scout noticing some random kid on an FCS team that is just killing it while their team is down four TDs against a P5 program, or noticing someone else making play after play when they're watching tape of another prospect. Teams work plenty to evaluate and catalog and rank players, but when you get down to it it's largely guesswork with the information you have available.
The trend now is to hoard picks. Smart front office guys are finally essentially admitting that they're just making educated guesses and they're not seers of the future. But they do understand the value of getting as many bites at the apple as possible.
Lazard being an UDFA was not proven or disproven by last year. He should have been drafted and we will likely see the result of that in the next couple years.
The NFL looking at Campbell doesn’t prove anything either. In fact I’d say it probably says the opposite and it probably has a point. The NFL is amazed he has done as well as he has with “bad” players.
People also have to recognize that the frustration blends between the two leagues. On the NBA side we had 5 players make the playoffs and the top pick of them was Georges at #50.
My question is who has gone to the NFL and not exceeded/met expectations?
Updated NFL.com 2nd & 3rd Rd mock: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ft-day-2-mock-broncos-snag-qb-in-second-round
Butler 2nd Round to Cowboys (#58)
Montgomery 3rd Round to Bucs (#70)
Butler 2nd Round to Cowboys (#58)
Montgomery 3rd Round to Bucs (#70)
Well, yeah - you as a Bears fan wouldn't want to see the preeminent cellar dweller do something that actually makes sense and makes them a better team.
For those that know the process better, do ALL draftees only get drafted by NFL teams they supposedly already 'officially met' with? Or can a team come up on the clock and feel the 'best available' overrides and could still draft someone they haven't talked with?
A team doesn't have to meet with a player in order to take them. You'll hear about it every once in a while from a draftee - maybe the team chatted with the player for a few minutes at the combine and then had no further contact up until they call them on draft day. I think it's usually so a team can conceal interest in a player they covet.
Can draft them without talking to them. In fact, sometimes teams don't talk/meet with a player on purpose so other teams won't know they are interested in that particular player.
Ok, cool. Was hoping that was the case just because I actually don't like mock drafts predicting where players go ahead of time like there's no suspense or behind the scenes decision making left. Then let me ask this.... is there a time at the combine, or wherever, when players are interviewed and ALL NFL teams representatives are present, or its just based on individual team's asking to interview who they select?
At the combine each team is limited to a maximum of sixty fifteen minute interviews. Post-combine each team is allowed thirty official pre-draft visits where they can have a player at their facility and do everything but work the player out. I would guess that's where a lot of the "board work" and game tape breakdown goes on. There are other rules in place for events like the Senior Bowl and pro days, etc.
