***Official ISU Bowl Predictions***

[cyIclSoneU]

Im not sure if the rules have changed but in 2015 OU got in the CFP and TCU at #11 went to the alamo and OSU at #16 went to the sugar bowl

The rules are different with the establishment of the CCG. If you make the CCG you will get the Sugar Bowl if the winner goes to the playoff. You could be 7-6 (6-3) and would make it over a 9-3 (6-3) team if you were the team in the CCG.

I briefly googled this but then decided not to look too much because I am certain that this came up last year with Texas and that this is the rule. To anyone, if I'm wrong please quote me with a link and I will be enlightened by you

 

[ForeverIowan]

Probably need LSU to beat UGA in the SEC championship too. Also Alabama to lose to Auburn just to make sure.

Agreed they need LSU to win the SEC. There is no way an Alabama team who didnt even play in their conference title game (with their star QB injured) gets in over one loss and Big 12 champ Oklahoma.

Even if Utah wins out I think there is legit argument for OU to get in over them. Look at their schedule it is a joke.

I just personally think if OU wins out they are more likely than not to make the CFP.

 

[CascadeClone]

There is no way an Alabama team who didnt even play in their conference title game (with their star QB injured) gets in over one loss and Big 12 champ Oklahoma.

Never underestimate the level of crookedness and inside-dealing of the CFP committee.

Although with Tua out, I think you are probably right, they would take OU.

 

[twojman]

Yeah it would be interesting to see what would be more important to the CWB. ISU would bring a lot more people to game (tickets/hotels, etc.) but would they rather have the bigger "name" (Texas) and probably get a better tv rating?

In the old days I think ISU would be the clear choice but I almost think today the TV ratings are just as if not more important to the Bowl Staff/ESPN who owns a lot of these games.

Here is my understanding of bowl games and their 'ideal' selections. They want one team that will drive TV ratings and one team that will fill up the stands. Like I said, this is the ideal situation for bowl games based on what I've heard from years and years of sports radio listening. (including bowl reps coming on stations/shows)

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

1.) Conference standing are meaningless in the bowl selection process, it all boils down to match ups and who will travel.

2.) Even with a loss at K-State there is no chance in hell Iowa State falls to the Liberty Bowl

3.) **** Baylor

 

[twojman]

As far as playoff chances for OU goes, they were helped again this weekend with ISU and OSU winning. If ISU wins, we will stay ranked in CFP, OSU should still be ranked even with a loss to OU.
Why is that important? 2 top 25 wins for OU. OU will get to beat Baylor which would be another top 25 win for OU. Alabama would have 1 win over a top 25 team if they beat Auburn. No way Alabama is in over OU at that point.

Pac 12 got hurt with the Washington loss and Oregon loss. Oregon will not make CFP no matter what and Washington will be out of top 25 removing a top 25 win for their Pac 12 opponents. I think even if Utah wins out, OU is in over Utah.

LSU will beat Georgia giving them 2 losses, OU is in over Georgia.

Penn St lost, they are a non factor. B1G could get two in if Minnesota beat Wisky and Ohio St. Ohio St would get in based on their resume and so would Minnesota in that scenario. I give that a 5% chance of happening.

ACC only gets Clemson in if they go undefeated. Clemson is the only ranked ACC team, their SOS will lack top 25 wins but will have quality wins which is beating team >.500.

My updated thoughts for Big 12 bowl games based on how I think the season will end:

OU - CFP
Baylor - Sugar
Alamo - Texas (taking the local fan base even though ISU finished ahead in conference. If ISU was there 2-3 years ago, I think ISU gets picked but since we were there last year, I don't think it happens again.)
CWB - ISU
Texas Bowl - OSU
Liberty Bowl - KSU
Cheeze It or First Responder Bowl - TCU. (I know TCU went to Cheeze it last year which is why I think they go First Responder Bowl this year even though Cheeze it gets first pick,)

The Big 12 will not fill their bowl slots because OU in CFP and Baylor in Sugar Bowl.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

As far as playoff chances for OU goes, they were helped again this weekend with ISU and OSU winning. If ISU wins, we will stay ranked in CFP, OSU should still be ranked even with a loss to OU.
Why is that important? 2 top 25 wins for OU. OU will get to beat Baylor which would be another top 25 win for OU. Alabama would have 1 win over a top 25 team if they beat Auburn. No way Alabama is in over OU at that point.

Pac 12 got hurt with the Washington loss and Oregon loss. Oregon will not make CFP no matter what and Washington will be out of top 25 removing a top 25 win for their Pac 12 opponents. I think even if Utah wins out, OU is in over Utah.

LSU will beat Georgia giving them 2 losses, OU is in over Georgia.

Penn St lost, they are a non factor. B1G could get two in if Minnesota beat Wisky and Ohio St. Ohio St would get in based on their resume and so would Minnesota in that scenario. I give that a 5% chance of happening.

ACC only gets Clemson in if they go undefeated. Clemson is the only ranked ACC team, their SOS will lack top 25 wins but will have quality wins which is beating team >.500.

My updated thoughts for Big 12 bowl games based on how I think the season will end:

OU - CFP
Baylor - Sugar
Alamo - Texas (taking the local fan base even though ISU finished ahead in conference. If ISU was there 2-3 years ago, I think ISU gets picked but since we were there last year, I don't think it happens again.)
CWB - ISU
Texas Bowl - OSU
Liberty Bowl - KSU
Cheeze It or First Responder Bowl - TCU. (I know TCU went to Cheeze it last year which is why I think they go First Responder Bowl this year even though Cheeze it gets first pick,)

The Big 12 will not fill their bowl slots because OU in CFP and Baylor in Sugar Bowl.

I actually think the Alamo Bowl would actually prefer to not have Texas. The game will be a sell out either way so I imagine they want a fan base that will have an economic impact on San Antonio. The majority of Texas fans will be in and out.

 

[Cycsk]

The rules are different with the establishment of the CCG. If you make the CCG you will get the Sugar Bowl if the winner goes to the playoff. You could be 7-6 (6-3) and would make it over a 9-3 (6-3) team if you were the team in the CCG.

I briefly googled this but then decided not to look too much because I am certain that this came up last year with Texas and that this is the rule. To anyone, if I'm wrong please quote me with a link and I will be enlightened by you

Are these "rules?" Contractual obligations? Or just "right of first refusal?" Haven't we been picked the last two times before someone who finished ahead of us in the Big 12?

 

[BigJCy]

Brett McMurphy: Orlando vs Notre Dame

 

[clonerules]

Schlabach has us back in San Antonio vs Oregon. Sign me up!

 

[isufbcurt]

Schlabach has us back in San Antonio vs Oregon. Sign me up!

That would be nuts. It'd be interesting to see how our defensive philosophy matches up to their speed.

 

[allfourcy]

Here is my understanding of bowl games and their 'ideal' selections. They want one team that will drive TV ratings and one team that will fill up the stands. Like I said, this is the ideal situation for bowl games based on what I've heard from years and years of sports radio listening. (including bowl reps coming on stations/shows)

Well, ISU filled up the stands. Are you suggesting Washington State drove the TV ratings??

 

[ForeverIowan]

Schlabach has us back in San Antonio vs Oregon. Sign me up!

I could be way off but wont Oregon be nearly 7 point favorites vs. Utah in the Pac 12 title game?

I think its more likely Oregon plays in the Rose as Pac 12 champ and Utah gets the Alamo as runner-up.

If the above plays out I'd rather go to Orlando against Notre Dame.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Are these "rules?" Contractual obligations? Or just "right of first refusal?" Haven't we been picked the last two times before someone who finished ahead of us in the Big 12?

This rule is only for the Sugar and only if the CCG winner makes the playoff

 

[Hoggins]

OU is making the playoff if they go 12-1.

OU 12-1
Conference champ
3 or 4 top 25 wins (Baylor x2, OSU, ISU/KSU winner)
Loss to a 7 or 8 win (top 25) team on the road

Utah 12-1
Conference Champ
1 top 25 win (Oregon)
Loss to a 8 win top 25 team on the road

Alabama 11-1
1 top 25 win (Auburn)
Loss to #1 team at home before their QB was hurt

OU gets in in that situation. Never mind that OU’s brand is a million times better than Utah

 

[isufbcurt]

OU is making the playoff if they go 12-1.

OU 12-1
Conference champ
3 or 4 top 25 wins (Baylor x2, OSU, ISU/KSU winner)
Loss to a 7 or 8 win (top 25) team on the road

Utah 12-1
Conference Champ
1 top 25 win (Oregon)
Loss to a 8 win top 25 team on the road

Alabama 11-1
1 top 25 win (Auburn)
Loss to #1 team at home before their QB was hurt

OU gets in that in situation. Never mind that OU’s brand is a million times better than Utah

We will see, but having OU ranked 2 spots lower than Utah last week was pretty telling. If OU is still ranked lower than Utah tomorrow night then they will probably not jump Utah if they both win out. Although Baylor is a top 25 win people still see their really weak non-conference schedule and aren't sold on them (thus their ranking with 1 loss).

Plus if Bama beats Auburn I don't see the committee moving them down 2 spots in the final pre-bowl rankings.

 

[JP4CY]

OU is making the playoff if they go 12-1.

OU 12-1
Conference champ
3 or 4 top 25 wins (Baylor x2, OSU, ISU/KSU winner)
Loss to a 7 or 8 win (top 25) team on the road

Utah 12-1
Conference Champ
1 top 25 win (Oregon)
Loss to a 8 win top 25 team on the road

Alabama 11-1
1 top 25 win (Auburn)
Loss to #1 team at home before their QB was hurt

OU gets in that in situation. Never mind that OU’s brand is a million times better than Utah

OU won't get in over a 12-1 GA or LSU (if GA wins).

 

[Hoggins]

OU won't get in over a 12-1 GA or LSU (if GA wins).

UGA isn’t beating LSU. Their offense can’t keep up.

 

[StevieISU23]

Utah's Best Conference win is against @ 6-5 Washington.................woof.

 

[BigJCy]

Thing hurting OU right now is the way they are playing. Yes they are winning but barely and have looked sloppy. Need to clean it up these last 2 games.