I think that might have a little to do with him being the winningest coach in our schools history, idk.
MONDAY MUSINGS: Hoops thoughts, football coaching changes, don't be a jackass
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Well Prohm is a little further than 1.5 years in. His record with his own players isn’t great. Honest question, where do you see us finishing in the Big 12 this year?
He has been at Oregon for 10 years and before that he was at Creighton for 14 years. Not exactly a job hopper.
I'm not sure, but I am sure I will be at every home game and watch every away game cheering them on.
And theres your problem. You call everything you disagree with unreasonable when that would be a great example of a subject people could reasonably disagree upon.
For example, you correctly argue he still got starter minutes, but the fact is that by not having one of our best on the floor we started more games in a hole and that changes the flow of the game from there. It would be reasonable to have an opinion on whether that was a good decision based on that. There are pluses and minuses to that decision
this is literally the first time I’ve heard Altman was interested. I think we should be cautious to assume it’s true.
"His own players" argument has be litigated to death on these forums and it is still a horrible one. Prohm has proven he can win with talent brought in from another staff and he has proven he can win with talent brought in by his own staff. What else do you want?
What I find really interesting is 'past tense' discussion. Hindsight is so easy to complain about. Hypothetically, as most of us sit in our chairs at the time the game is being played, are we saying things like "take a chance with 3 fouls at the end of the first half with player X" or alternatively "take player X out with 3 fouls? We don't want to risk a 4th". Or is it 'after' the game that we say "we should've left X in and taken the chance? My point is how many of you out there were actually performing live coaching during the game? And if you were AND you were correct, I'd love to read your posts. The rest of you, mehhh.
I have no idea if you’re right. You could be. But you have an agenda.
and didn’t most people think we’d get conditt? That wasn’t exactly a hard thing to guess.
asshat.
You don't honestly believe that, do you?
The vast majority of the criticism I've seen of Prohm contemplate his entire tenure. Sure, the FAMU stuff expedited the discussion, but I don't think a road win at TCU was going to make things sunshine and roses.
CMC publicly states he would rather play a guy too late than too early. Bad example since he way under performed and is on someone's "hotseat"...
I'll be curious to see what happens if and when Condit gets into early foul trouble if and when he gets that starters spot.
The bold statements above are your problem.
You admit that a reasonable person could have it either way.
A person can reasonably disagree and say that Lindell Wigginton should have started once he got his sea legs back under him last season, but that was not the point made at the beginning of this conversation. That is one I agree with, actually -- LW should have started over Talen last year at some point, though I wonder if Talen was guaranteed a spot behind the scenes during his recruiting process, a promise that ultimately brought him to Ames. That was not the counterpoint, however, looking back.
The counterpoint was that Wigginton was "mismanaged" last season.
What you are saying (e.g., there are pros and cons to either decision, but you are implying the net impact of it either way was probably pretty limited compared to the other issues with the coaching and the roster) is reasonable.
You have either ignored or backed down greatly from the point.
Prohm had two options, A and B, and both were pretty similar. Going with A does not mean he mismanaged B. You would have to prove that B was (1.) substantially better than A in basically all circumstances and (2.) B got really screwed, which is a hard case to make when B was playing more minutes than two of the starters.
Could it be possible that Lewis was responsible for Florida a&m not missing a shot down the stretch?
