Jake Sullivan on M&M show

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Jake, an AAU coach was taking the opportunity to speak with some of the greatest coaches in the game? About his player? How dare he!

So what if HB and his family ask Jake for his opinion and he gives an honest opinion that is not Iowa State. Would you want him to lie to the kid because of the school Jake graduated from? Who would that serve in the long run?

I cant disagree with what Jake is doing (if he is doing this), but I selfishly wish he would help ISU, show some support to his alma mater and help ISU become a very solid team.

Good cooperation between McDermott/ISU and Jake Sullivan/All Iowa Attack could potentially go along way in the future for both programs, IMO.
 

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I cant disagree with what Jake is doing (if he is doing this), but I selfishly wish he would help ISU, show some support to his alma mater and help ISU become a very solid team.

Good cooperation between McDermott/ISU and Jake Sullivan/All Iowa Attack could potentially go along way in the future for both programs, IMO.

I can't argue with that.
 

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It is driving me nuts reading this thread and seeing the sense of entitlement some of the people here feel about Barnes. Harrison Barnes is A PERSON. A CHILD, no less. It doesn't matter if his mom works here, or if he plays for an alum, people are free to make the decision that is BEST FOR THEM. At this point in time, Harrison should NOT pick our school if he wants one of the following things:

1) To play on a team with multiple highly touted recruits
2) To consistently play against the BEST competition
3) To attend a school with consistent national exposure
4) To play on a team that routinely wins the conference
5) To play on a team that routinely plays in the NCAA tournament, often going multiple rounds

If I am a highly touted recruit, no matter where my allegiances lie, and I'm looking for ANY of those things, there is NO WAY I'm picking ISU. I'm sorry, I love ISU and I believe our program is headed in the right direction, but some of you have to wake up and realize that we aren't even close to there yet. We won't be there by the time Barnes makes a commitment. Our program is not entitled to kids who live in Ames, or live in Iowa, or play for an ISU alum. Each person is different, and desires different things in their college career. ISU is not the right choice for a lot of them. Jake Sullivan would be doing a huge disservice to Harrison Barnes if he pushed him toward ISU just because it's where he went to school. Please stop talking about Harrison Barnes as if he was "ISU's to lose," because I doubt that is really the case. I'm sure HB has taken into consideration the pros and cons of this university as well as others, and will make a good decision in the end. Now, a "good decision" doesn't necessarily mean choosing to come here, it means making a decision that is right for HIM.
 
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It is driving me nuts reading this thread and seeing the sense of entitlement some of the people here feel about Barnes. Harrison Barnes is A PERSON. A CHILD, no less. It doesn't matter if his mom works here, or if he plays for an alum, people are free to make the decision that is BEST FOR THEM. At this point in time, Harrison should NOT pick our school if he wants one of the following things:

1) To play on a team with multiple highly touted recruits
2) To consistently play against the BEST competition
3) To attend a school with consistent national exposure
4) To play on a team that routinely wins the conference
5) To play on a team that routinely plays in the NCAA tournament, often going multiple rounds

If I am a highly touted recruit, no matter where my allegiances lie, and I'm looking for ANY of those things, there is NO WAY I'm picking ISU. I'm sorry, I love ISU and I believe our program is headed in the right direction, but some of you have to wake up and realize that we aren't even close to there yet. We won't be there by the time Barnes makes a commitment. Our program is not entitled to kids who live in Ames, or live in Iowa, or play for an ISU alum. Each person is different, and desires different things in their college career. ISU is not the right choice for a lot of them. Jake Sullivan would be doing a huge disservice to Harrison Barnes if he pushed him toward ISU just because it's where he went to school. Please stop talking about Harrison Barnes as if he was "ISU's to lose," because I doubt that is really the case. I'm sure HB has taken into consideration the pros and cons of this university as well as others, and will make a good decision in the end. Now, a "good decision" doesn't necessarily mean choosing to come here, it means making a decision that is right for HIM.

When you play in a power conference like the Big 12 and you have a star recruit no more than 5 minutes away from you most of the time, that recruit is yours to lose.

McDermott and staff are able to spend very little money on recruiting this kid because of his proximity to the University, and are able to attend pretty much every basketball event the kid takes place in. The other schools going after him do not have that luxury.

There is no doubt this recruit is ISU's to lose...
 

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It is driving me nuts reading this thread and seeing the sense of entitlement some of the people here feel about Barnes. Harrison Barnes is A PERSON. A CHILD, no less. It doesn't matter if his mom works here, or if he plays for an alum, people are free to make the decision that is BEST FOR THEM. At this point in time, Harrison should NOT pick our school if he wants one of the following things:

1) To play on a team with multiple highly touted recruits
2) To consistently play against the BEST competition
3) To attend a school with consistent national exposure
4) To play on a team that routinely wins the conference
5) To play on a team that routinely plays in the NCAA tournament, often going multiple rounds

If I am a highly touted recruit, no matter where my allegiances lie, and I'm looking for ANY of those things, there is NO WAY I'm picking ISU. I'm sorry, I love ISU and I believe our program is headed in the right direction, but some of you have to wake up and realize that we aren't even close to there yet. We won't be there by the time Barnes makes a commitment. Our program is not entitled to kids who live in Ames, or live in Iowa, or play for an ISU alum. Each person is different, and desires different things in their college career. ISU is not the right choice for a lot of them. Jake Sullivan would be doing a huge disservice to Harrison Barnes if he pushed him toward ISU just because it's where he went to school. Please stop talking about Harrison Barnes as if he was "ISU's to lose," because I doubt that is really the case. I'm sure HB has taken into consideration the pros and cons of this university as well as others, and will make a good decision in the end. Now, a "good decision" doesn't necessarily mean choosing to come here, it means making a decision that is right for HIM.


:eek:

someone took a slug of the preachy juice this morning!
 

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:eek:

someone took a slug of the preachy juice this morning!

Numerous people in this thread have been taking shots at people the whole way through. Apparently because I don't think he's coming here, and actually believe that might be a good decision for him, I'm "encouraging" him to go to Duke, or UNC, or whatever. The real fact is that I don't know where he wants to go, but I'm certainly not blaming him for looking elsewhere. I'm not blaming Jake for helping him see what's available. IMO, if HB comes to ISU just because the people in his life are pro-ISU, that was a foolish decision. If he chooses ISU because he thinks that's where he would fit in, and wants to go to school, then great. More power to him. I'm not going to chastise people for encouraging the kid to take a look at the big names.
 

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When you play in a power conference like the Big 12 and you have a star recruit no more than 5 minutes away from you most of the time, that recruit is yours to lose.

McDermott and staff are able to spend very little money on recruiting this kid because of his proximity to the University, and are able to attend pretty much every basketball event the kid takes place in. The other schools going after him do not have that luxury.

There is no doubt this recruit is ISU's to lose...

But that's on Mac and staff. That has nothing to do with jake and Harrison Barnes.
 

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It is driving me nuts reading this thread and seeing the sense of entitlement some of the people here feel about Barnes. Harrison Barnes is A PERSON. A CHILD, no less. It doesn't matter if his mom works here, or if he plays for an alum, people are free to make the decision that is BEST FOR THEM. At this point in time, Harrison should NOT pick our school if he wants one of the following things:

1) To play on a team with multiple highly touted recruits
2) To consistently play against the BEST competition
3) To attend a school with consistent national exposure
4) To play on a team that routinely wins the conference
5) To play on a team that routinely plays in the NCAA tournament, often going multiple rounds

If I am a highly touted recruit, no matter where my allegiances lie, and I'm looking for ANY of those things, there is NO WAY I'm picking ISU. I'm sorry, I love ISU and I believe our program is headed in the right direction, but some of you have to wake up and realize that we aren't even close to there yet. We won't be there by the time Barnes makes a commitment. Our program is not entitled to kids who live in Ames, or live in Iowa, or play for an ISU alum. Each person is different, and desires different things in their college career. ISU is not the right choice for a lot of them. Jake Sullivan would be doing a huge disservice to Harrison Barnes if he pushed him toward ISU just because it's where he went to school. Please stop talking about Harrison Barnes as if he was "ISU's to lose," because I doubt that is really the case. I'm sure HB has taken into consideration the pros and cons of this university as well as others, and will make a good decision in the end. Now, a "good decision" doesn't necessarily mean choosing to come here, it means making a decision that is right for HIM.

Child? Please.
 

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I love how all AAU coaches push there players to one program or another. The one Harrison happens to play on has a coach from Iowa State and he is the one that does not push Harrison towards ISU. Jake better get his act straight. He is being supported by ISU boosters and get's Ames players. I would rather have him playing for Martin Brothers. They at least try to get the best kids to go to Iowa Schools.

Silly. Who says that's the way AAU teams are supposed to operate? They get a lot of criticism (and rightfully so) for being corrupt and ethically challenged for crap like that.
 

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. . . none of you think it's a bad thing that a stand out at our University while he played here, is out there toting other schools as the place to be?
First, prove to me that he is out there toting other schools. Second, wouldn't it be hypocritical, or perhaps incestuous, to expect blind loyalty? Loyalty, perhaps. But blind loyalty is at best a disservice to the people he has influence with.
I'm not saying Jake is doing a bad thing, nor am I saying he has to stand up for ISU.
You have to admit that it sound exactly like that's what you're saying.
It's his life and he has to make his way. I'm just saying I don't like it and I don't see why I should. I really don't know the ins and outs of what Jake sullivan does,
I wish you would have stopped there.
. . .but it sounds to me like he's figured out a way to be an agent to high school kids. Sounds to me that if he can put "his kid" in a top tier program it works out better for him than sending them to ISU.
Your source? Outside of internet rumors? You have a relationship with Jake? I'm really sorry that I might seem to be picking on you -- but there's just nothing solid out there you can point to and make claims like that. Frankly I think it's somewhat mean to even speculate on it. That's a bit of a baseless character slam to Jake.
I'm sorry, I don't like it. Anyone we are recruiting and really want to come here, shouldn't be told by one of our alumni that another school is better for them.
I won't say I disagree--but I wouldn't cross over into saying an alumnus is obligated to be a cheerleader. I would also say that Jake is first his AAU coach. Nepotism is not a good thing.

Disclaimer -- I do not really know Jake personally. I know (am aquainted with) several people he's friends with and we attend the same church. I simply refuse to speculate negatively until solid information proves me wrong. All of the solid information I know about Jake leads me to believe he has high character (certainly not perfect--none of us are) and would not put any personal financial interest ahead of what is best for people he has influence with.
 

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