I think you are way off here. The guy started as a high school coach, and worked his way up the ranks from there. He formed all those relationships himself. He's not a former college player or son of a former coach that was given jobs based on his name or playing days. It really looks like he's earned everything he's gotten in the the coaching world. This coming from someone who was hoping we'd hire someone else, but is ok with the Otzelberger hire.
Report: T.J. Otzelberger headed for Iowa State
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Someone predicted the announcement would be made when we got to 100 pages.....only 6 more pages to go.
First, I agree with you. But welcome to how big business runs ... everywhere. It's not your accomplishments as much as it is 'who you know'. Sad, but until the good 'ol boy mentality disappears, we all will be faced with this at one time or another.
I really am just excited to see what a new coach can do, regardless of who it is. Need some optimism around the program.
This^^^^ is a good post. What rochclone said last night I think sums it up assuming TJ is the hire. And that is he thinks JP is hell bent on this because it was denied him 6 years ago. If that's true then I don't know what it reeks of. I assume everyone with a sense of smell and can fill in the blanks themselves.
And you are trying to make everyone hate the hire. What's the difference?
In 1937 we went 3 and 15 overall. That is a win percentage of 16.6%. Prohm went 2 and 22 for a win percentage of 8.3%, so Prohm is half as good as that season you just listed. He did match that seasons 0% conference win percentage, so i guess he can hang is hat on a tie for worse win percentage in conference for school history, but he did mange to both win less games and lose more games than the season you brought up.
I will save you being wrong again and give you the stats of the ken trickeys last season. He went 3 and 24 overall and 3 and 11 in conference play. So conference percentage blows prohm out of the water, and overall percentage is 11.1% which is still better than prohm. He did have more losses though.
Oh for sure!
I just think the people that are close to TJ would be better off acknowledging the issues.
To be fair, they’ve done much better this time than in 2015 when it was an outright campaign.
I’m not. I’m discussing why I don’t like it. I’m not campaigning against it.
He’ll be the underdog soon enough!
Losing mid major coach in the Big 12, having to clean up the Prohm/JP mess.
That's my thought. Gonna look a whole lot like the McDermott years is my guess. He got talent too, couple NBA picks on the same team. How did they do again?
I hope it's not because Colorado and Nebraska are gone.
CycloneErik
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True.
Hard to see how bringing in a guy to be ranked 10th among conference coaches is gonna clean that mess up.
This needed to be a swing for the fences process, not a buddy hire.
The point is that Pollard needs to own this. Folks know exactly what went down here and if Pollard tries to claim an exhaustive search, he loses credibility. TJ’s record at UNLV just isn’t good enough to justify that narrative. No one else beside ISU was interested in TJ. Don’t try and claim that donor $$$ didn’t have an impact on the decision either. If Pollard continues that line, he is going to get hammered. I doubt he cares much because this will most likely be his last mbb hire.
Thank you! This is the attitude to have. Good lord, there's more temper tantrums than a room full of toddlers around here.
Probably because they already know the outcome.
Nor am I, just being realistic. The TJ fanboys have driven me to this place. TJ isn't being mentioned for any other jobs, let alone Minnesota, which is the tell. We aren't grabbing some hot commodity like Campbell was. Was TJ even a candidate for Washington when that job opened up? If not, why not?
