Is McDermott's job security in danger

[usedcarguy]

McDermott is safe. WJ really left us hanging because we don't have that 6'7 guy who can drive to the basket and rebound and his timing left no opportunity to recruit someone.

Yeah they've blown some close games but they are a VERY young team. Staiger's conditioning or mobility are not up to pre injury levels. We signed Colvin and things are on the right track.

This is a dumb thread and should be shut down.

 

[CyPride]

why is pollards job in danger?

Why is his job in jeopardy? I'll give you a couple ideas why:

1. Pollard fired good coaches in wrestling, football, and basketball.
2. Doing so spent our reserves (ok, if you get a return).
3. Our programs are not in better shape because of this action (no return).
4. He has mortgaged our finances.
5. Threw away our tradional logo and colors.

Want more?

 

[jdoggivjc]

Cincinnatti's program was in better shape than ours, but Kelly has beat 6 ranked teams in less than 2 years at Cincy and they had only beat 5 ranked teams in the whole history of the school before he got there. He's in a bcs bowl this year and had to juggle qb's all year because of numerous injuries. He runs an innovative offense and high energy and aggressive defense and could have brought most of his staff intact to ISU. I have no doubt he would have won more than 5 games the last two years, maybe quite a few more.

And this post is a prime example of "the grass is greener on the other side" mentality.

 

[A-town Cy]

Cincinnatti's program was in better shape than ours, but Kelly has beat 6 ranked teams in less than 2 years at Cincy and they had only beat 5 ranked teams in the whole history of the school before he got there. He's in a bcs bowl this year and had to juggle qb's all year because of numerous injuries. He runs an innovative offense and high energy and aggressive defense and could have brought most of his staff intact to ISU. I have no doubt he would have won more than 5 games the last two years, maybe quite a few more.

Yes, Dan'toni these theads are confusing, listen to this Mike

http://houserockbuilt.blogspot.com/2006/09/msu-radio-host-melts-*******-down-on.html

 

[Farnsworth]

if we finish with another losing season?

i find it laughable if anyone has us having a winning season this year.

 

[Cyclonepride]

If we have a player defection fiasco following the offseason, I would say there's trouble. Otherwise, I think Greg can and will pull it out and put this program back on the map.

 

[CyPride]

McDermott is safe. WJ really left us hanging because we don't have that 6'7 guy who can drive to the basket and rebound and his timing left no opportunity to recruit someone.

Yeah they've blown some close games but they are a VERY young team. Staiger's conditioning or mobility are not up to pre injury levels. We signed Colvin and things are on the right track.

This is a dumb thread and should be shut down.

uhhh, we just got whipped by a much younger team who has a coach with a shorter tenure at his school. We've got several players 6'10" and above. How many does Iowa have.....I'll help you - 0!!!!! And, btw, their leading scorer didn't play a second - and he is a true freshman.

Give the young BS a rest.

 

[IcSyU]

Why is his job in jeopardy? I'll give you a couple ideas why:

1. Pollard fired good coaches in wrestling, football, and basketball.

I think you can make a case for firing all three of those coaches. Obviously Wayne Morgan is a little tougher, but in the long run, I don't think Iowa State would have gone very far.

2. Doing so spent our reserves (ok, if you get a return).

You gotta take risks to reap rewards.

3. Our programs are not in better shape because of this action (no return).

We're obviously only talking football and basketball, because many programs are much better off now than they were pre-Pollard.

4. He has mortgaged our finances.

I don't even know what this means.

5. Threw away our tradional logo and colors.

Traditional logo. I'll give you that. I miss ya Cy. Colors? Ketchup and mustard were the colors? I thought they were cardinal and gold?

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[jdoggivjc]

5. Threw away our tradional logo and colors.

:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

When was blue ever a traditional ISU color? Or "ketchup and mustard" for that matter?

We've been "cardinal and gold" since the 1800s. We were a living, breathing McDonalds advertisement for the last 12. I didn't realize 12 years defined tradition...

This year's the closest ISU's been to our actual traditional colors in a very long time...

 

[LindenCy]

And this post is a prime example of "the grass is greener on the other side" mentality.

Someone should tell that to your signature guy...:wink:

 

[Clone5]

McDermott keeping his job should be directly related to Harrison Barnes coming here or not.

 

[jdoggivjc]

McDermott keeping his job should be directly related to Harrison Barnes coming here or not.

And I call BS on that one.

Let's see, the schools that Barnes is interested in - Duke, North Carolina, Iowa State - methinks the odds are stacked against us with this one. I doubt even the almighty Orr lands Barnes in such a scenario...

 

[usedcarguy]

Why is his job in jeopardy? I'll give you a couple ideas why:

1. Pollard fired good coaches in wrestling, football, and basketball.
2. Doing so spent our reserves (ok, if you get a return).
3. Our programs are not in better shape because of this action (no return).
4. He has mortgaged our finances.
5. Threw away our tradional logo and colors.

Want more?

Fired good coaches in wrestling and basketball? You're kidding, right?

Douglas was an average coach in what used to be a top ranked program. He avoided the media like the plague. He would be scheduled on Sports Saturday on KASI and would not show up about 75% of the time. When he did show up, nearly everyone would go into shock. This started a game called "Where's Bobby?" fashioned after Where's Waldo. Not a good quality for a program with a lot of empty seats.

As for Morgan, you're confusing his recruiting abilities with his coaching abilities. If he was a good coach, he would not be selling satellite dishes. Showing up late for practice and chewing on the assistants for not doing what he wanted is not leadership.

Mac was a good coach. But he was a terrible administrator. He was loyal to his assistants - to a fault. Clearly the program had lost momentum.

#5 has already been addressed by someone else.

As for #'s 2,3, & 4, it's too early to tell.

 

[Clone5]

And I call BS on that one.

Let's see, the schools that Barnes is interested in - Duke, North Carolina, Iowa State - methinks the odds are stacked against us with this one. I doubt even the almighty Orr lands Barnes in such a scenario...

I doubt we have a NCAA tournament season by 2011 therefore if we don't get there by then it will probably be time to part ways. Unless that is, he lands Barnes.

 

[usedcarguy]

uhhh, we just got whipped by a much younger team who has a coach with a shorter tenure at his school. We've got several players 6'10" and above. How many does Iowa have.....I'll help you - 0!!!!! And, btw, their leading scorer didn't play a second - and he is a true freshman.

Give the young BS a rest.

6'10 and above? so we're supposed to put our post players on the wing and expect them to drive to the basket? I don't think so.

Iowa's team is not younger than ours. They are actually quite comparable They are more athletic. The fact is that we are plugging holes this year with a bunch of guards. With a player like Rashon, or WJ, it would have been a closer game.

 

[EddieISU]

Can we please get a coach that has some passion and fire!! This guy is nothing but a poor man's version of Steve Alford. What did he say about the boys not having the "killer instinct" after the Drake game, come on coach, you put the 2nd team in when we where up 13 and on the verge of blowing them out in the 1st half. And yeah great job, take the hot shooter out of the game after he has hit 5 threes!! We need a coach with some passion on the sidelines. Think about it? The last 3 good coaches we had(Orr, Floyd, Larry) all knew how to feed off of Hilton Majic- this coach is a dud! And I mean DUD!!

 

[Jack & Hilton]

Make plays!!!!!

 

[MontyBurns]

uhhh, we just got whipped by a much younger team who has a coach with a shorter tenure at his school.

Iowa is young but they're not "much younger" than us. And the key matchup was Brackins (Sophomore) vs. Tate (Senior). Greg is going to do a great job at ISU. This team will be better in February than it is now and it will be much better next year than this year.

 

[MontyBurns]

Why is his job in jeopardy? I'll give you a couple ideas why:

1. Pollard fired good coaches in wrestling, football, and basketball.
2. Doing so spent our reserves (ok, if you get a return).
3. Our programs are not in better shape because of this action (no return).
4. He has mortgaged our finances.
5. Threw away our tradional logo and colors.

Want more?

I agree with 1 thru 5.

But don't forget that in addition to bringing football and basketball down to levels far below where he started (and the lowest in 15-20 years), he has simultaneously raised ticket prices and required donations to their highest levels ever and to near the top of all Big XII schools.

He also completely screwed up the JTS seating policy to the point that it gives fans an incentive to not buy season tickets.

And don't forget the famous "billboard" in Cedar Rapids. Nothing like creating bulletin board material for your opponents while wasting money at the same time. We can't afford to buy new uniforms that match the school colors, but we had money for that......it's not a surprise that we are the only school to pull such a stunt.

McDermott's and Chizik's jobs are not in jeopardy -- they get full support for at least the lengths of their contracts. But if we reach a point where either or both of them become divisive figures and need to go because they haven't succeeded, Pollard should go with them.

 

[Wesley]

Not while Pollard is AD (and I don't see him being gone anytime soon). If Pollard fires him, it makes him look bad. If Pollard fires him, it will be after McDermott has had 5 years to get all of his own players here. I think Pollard's job is pretty secure right now so I don't see it. While the products on the field aren't good by any means, losing your head football coach to Auburn won't hurt Pollard much. His improvements to Jack Trice, planned improvements to Hilton, and basketball practice facility hold a lot of weight. Additionally, most other sports are on the rise (see cross country, track & field, volleyball, etc.)

Our bball team look a MVC team, our bball team looks like a Mountain West team. Which one o choose? Decisions, decisions. Seriously, we need to get our acct together pretty soon. Five years ago were looked like we meant business, today we mean a probably win. What gives? Is coaching that difficult to be better than 11th in the Big 12 in both sports?