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[quadmann]

I’ve been wondering if that wall will continue to the corner of the corral when they’re done. Or maybe that’s a spot for a maintenance gate.

I’ve been wondering if they were going to incorporate these concrete slabs into it somehow:


They “had” been sitting there since the big yellow crane placed them there during a delivery of retaining wall slabs for the West hillside. I had been watching them to see where they would use them. Then they “disappeared” last week when they had the camera focused all day off into “La La Land”.

There are two larger tan colored slabs and two smaller cement/grey colored slabs. Possibly two retaining wall slabs along with two anchoring slabs?

If they haven’t already been used elsewhere, might they use them to finish up the wall?

 

[Aclone]

I’ve been wondering if they were going to incorporate these concrete slabs into it somehow:
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They “had” been sitting there since the big yellow crane placed them there during a delivery of retaining wall slabs for the West hillside. I had been watching them to see where they would use them. Then they “disappeared” last week when they had the camera focused all day on “La La Land”.

There are two larger tan colored slabs and two smaller cement/grey colored slabs. Possibly two retaining wall slabs along with two anchoring slabs?

If they haven’t already been used elsewhere, they might somehow use them to finish the wall?

I think that if you watch the edit: early/mid morning shadows, you’ll see where those went. I suspect they finished the wall around the concourse when the full gap for heavy machinery was no longer needed.

 

[2speedy1]

1.) Students aren't getting more seats, the sections are rarely completely full.
2.) The hill sides will never be replaced with a more expensive option. JP wants a family type area.
3.) You curb demand by raising prices/donation requirements. A short term reaction regarding stadium capacity would be a terrible decision.
4.) parking is what it is. Iowa State has more parking than most schools.

1) student sections look not full because they pack the rows at the bottom. If they were at 100% attendance it would still look like the top is half full because the lower sections would be at 150% capacity, its always been that way.

2)They can build a family zone as many other stadiums have when they replace the Hills, saying they will NEVER be replaced is short sighted, Hills are just a place holder, and people make lame excuses to keep them when there are better or just as good options to replace them.

3)That is the entire issue here the idea is not to curb demand. It is to keep up with demand. We have been discussing keeping affordable sections but also increasing the size of sections for higher price tickets around the stadium. The demand is there. It is stupid to try to raise prices to the point no one wants to pay. That is how you ruin a business, I've seen many business try it and they always fail. I believe this is the problem in many stadiums around the country, why attendance is way down, they priced themselves so high no one wants to pay for it. But I guess you can try it.

4) Iowa State does have more parking...At least surface lots. Many schools and stadiums have much of their parking in Ramps etc. This is part of the reason Iowa State has such great tailgating. You still need to supplement it, I dont believe we need more tailgating lots, except to replace what we lose, but I do believe we need overflow parking, much of the overflow areas have been shut for events in recent years, and with more attendance it has become an issue. An overflow ramp would be beneficial. Especially when a significant amount of surface lots are lost from the construction of the A/E district.

 

[Cytasticlone]

Anyone know why they're breaking up concrete by the lower corner of the NW Hillside? At least, I think that's what they're doing. I'm pretty sure those slabs were poured not too long ago. I wonder what happened or if it was planned.

 

[cyclonedave25]

Anyone know why they're breaking up concrete by the lower corner of the NW Hillside? At least, I think that's what they're doing. I'm pretty sure those slabs were poured not too long ago. I wonder what happened or if it was planned.

Can’t see what they’re doing, but maybe something with the drainage system.

 

[BMWallace]

Iowa announced today that it is going to sell beer in the stadium. Jamie, what is the hold up?

Iowa athletics approves sale of beer, wine throughout Kinnick Stadium this fall

 

[Aclone]

I’ve been wondering if they were going to incorporate these concrete slabs into it somehow:
View attachment 86129

They “had” been sitting there since the big yellow crane placed them there during a delivery of retaining wall slabs for the West hillside. I had been watching them to see where they would use them. Then they “disappeared” last week when they had the camera focused all day off into “La La Land”.

There are two larger tan colored slabs and two smaller cement/grey colored slabs. Possibly two retaining wall slabs along with two anchoring slabs?

If they haven’t already been used elsewhere, might they use them to finish up the wall?

I went over to YouTube and ran the film back. I think the shadow here might hold your answer.

 

[Urbandale2013]

That makes a TON of sense. Endzone views are really bad unless you are in a suite

I think doing a third tier instead of a NEZ would make sense. I’m just not sure people think that is possible. The way our stadium is built doesn’t seem conducive to another tier. The key here is to keep up with demand. Club seats need expanded. I’m not sure about suits but it sounds like maybe those do too. Where are you going to put them right now? There isn’t really room to expand those without cannibalizing current seats. I assume high dollar donors don’t want to sit in the end zone so you can put those happy to be there in those spots. When calculating ROI on and end zone project it isn’t just the seats there it is the increase in revenue from other places.

Sukup basketball facility is ancient compared to our peers. It's 12 years old and no longer competitive with programs we want to recruit against.

I understand fans want to continue to attend games and not have their seats cost more. But soaring expenses and expensive construction projects don't allow for that.

Sukup doesn’t need replaced. It isn’t ancient. It isn’t state of the art anymore but it is definitely adequate. I think in the future it would be good to renovate and maybe expand some of the areas but it doesn’t need replaced.

 

[alarson]

I think doing a third tier instead of a NEZ would make sense. I’m just not sure people think that is possible. The way our stadium is built doesn’t seem conducive to another tier. The key here is to keep up with demand.

I'd think you'd probably take the existing upper deck down and reconfigure things- either with a 3rd deck or just a larger upper deck. That would also open up opportunities for other things if you wanted to reconfigure concourses, add a facade to the stadium, etc. TCU did something similar, knocking down everything above ground level.

It'd be a massive project though.

 

[Isualum13]

I'd think you'd probably take the existing upper deck down and reconfigure things- either with a 3rd deck or just a larger upper deck. That would also open up opportunities for other things if you wanted to reconfigure concourses, add a facade to the stadium, etc. TCU did something similar, knocking down everything above ground level.

It'd be a massive project though.

Massive and insanely expensive to add some cheap nosebleed seats.

 

[alarson]

Massive and insanely expensive to add some cheap nosebleed seats.

You seem to be missing the point. You wouldnt be doing it just to add cheap seats. They'd be adding those seats because those people currently in cheap seats would be displaced by other premium options. Things like more club seating, loge boxes, etc.

 

[RustShack]

I’m guessing it’s going to be a long while before they touch that end zone again. But maybe changing the level of the hills was far sighted for making changes in the future easier if they ever go that route?

 

[RustShack]

Now I’m not saying CMC is leaving after this season, but it will be the biggest test yet. If he stays after most of his starters graduate/go Pro and we continue to be good then maybe the process gets sped up a little.

But I still don’t understand wanting our stadium to be like everyone else’s when teams are starting to struggle to keep theirs full even if they “sell out”. Hell don’t we have the 3rd biggest stadium into the Big12 right now as it is?

 

[quadmann]

I went over to YouTube and ran the film back. I think the shadow here might hold your answer.

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Thanks for trying to get to the bottom of this, but we were both wrong! The concrete slabs are no more. They have ceased to exist. They have died and gone to meet their maker!

On the day of their demise (when the webcam was focused elsewhere), the time lapse camera at this address caught the missing action:

WebCam Archive - Stark Performance Center

www.fpm.iastate.edu

This is the day before their disappearance:


And this is the day of their disappearance (note the perpetrator was caught in the dastardly deed of their destruction):


I seem to remember seeing a pile of rubble when the camera finally swung back to that area that day. But I had no idea that rubble was the shattered remains of their no longer wanted once majestic bodies. May they rest in peace in that landfill in the sky forever.

(After faithfully watching those slabs for almost two months, I probably have an unhealthy emotional attachment to them)

 

[RustShack]

It’ll be interesting to see what media contracts look like in the next few years. If we suddenly make a lot more money then there’s more funding for all these extra projects people want but don’t want to pay for.

 

[Aclone]

It’ll be interesting to see what media contracts look like in the next few years. If we suddenly make a lot more money then there’s more funding for all these extra projects people want but don’t want to pay for.

Or, if I win a several hundred million dollar Powerball jackpot.

 

[Aclone]

Thanks for trying to get to the bottom of this, but we were both wrong! The concrete slabs are no more. They have ceased to exist. They have died and gone to meet their maker!

On the day of their demise (when the webcam was focused elsewhere), the time lapse camera at this address caught the missing action:

WebCam Archive - Stark Performance Center

www.fpm.iastate.edu

This is the day before their disappearance:
View attachment 86149

And this is the day of their disappearance (note the perpetrator was caught in the dastardly deed of their destruction):
View attachment 86150

I seem to remember seeing a pile of rubble when the camera finally swung back to that area that day. But I had no idea that rubble was the shattered remains of their no longer wanted once majestic bodies. May they rest in peace in that landfill in the sky forever.

(After faithfully watching those slabs for almost two months, I probably have an unhealthy emotional attachment to them)

Let me see if I got this straight.

Bam-bam turned them into Betty and Barney Rubble?

 

[everyyard]

Iowa announced today that it is going to sell beer in the stadium. Jamie, what is the hold up?

Iowa athletics approves sale of beer, wine throughout Kinnick Stadium this fall

You thought food/drink lines and bathroom lines were long before?!

 

[quadmann]

Looks like they’re working on the NW sprinklers again?

Anyone know why they're breaking up concrete by the lower corner of the NW Hillside? At least, I think that's what they're doing. I'm pretty sure those slabs were poured not too long ago. I wonder what happened or if it was planned.

I think these two things may be related. I noticed A wet patch in that area of concrete this morning before they started breaking it up. And they have been working on the hillside off and on this afternoon. A possible water leak in the irrigation water supply?

Edit: I wonder if this will delay the laying of sod, and if so, for how long?

 

[RustShack]

You thought food/drink lines and bathroom lines were long before?!

You can add stands for just beer, like any other stadium/event.