Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

[MushroomPinball]

Your last sentence is exactly why it would be a major issue.

Yea for sure. Boise St is maybe the only exception.

 

[Halincandenza]

I don’t believe this is something that is serious.

 

[Cyched]

 

[dahliaclone]

I don't get KU to the Big 10. They're basically just a better version of UConn; awful football, great basketball.

If you take away the second main factor (first being AAU) that everyone and their dog had for including KU to the Big Ten making so much sense...it doesn't make sense anymore. That reason was eyeballs and footprint and market. Cable continues to decline rapidly. KU honestly doesn't make any sense other than AAU.

 

[Statefan10]

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Honestly, if this is a ploy by TX and OU to get a ginormous deal with Fox, I would understand why it’s being done in the way it is. Gotta make it feel real.

 

[awd4cy]

If you take away the second main factor (first being AAU) that everyone and their dog had for including KU to the Big Ten making so much sense...it doesn't make sense anymore. That reason was eyeballs and footprint and market. Cable continues to decline rapidly. KU honestly doesn't make any sense other than AAU.

Agreed, and if basketball quality mattered, UConn would be in a P5 conference right now. It really means squat and I think it would for KU as well.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Sure, but there’s also a scenario in which the B1G stands pat rather than adding us and KU and further dividing revenue. I think we’d fit wonderfully there but that’s not enough. It has to be mutual interest.

Sure they could do as you say, but that means the PAC 12 coming in and scooping up KU, why would the Big 10 allow that to happen when KU I am sure would rather stay within the Midwest and join the league. If they are now at 15, they have to go to 16 to even things out.

So they either take a P5 school out of the Big 12, try and convince a school like Mizzu to leave the SEC, or take a G5 school.
I doubt that Mizzu would be willing to leave the SEC, nor do I think they will poach anymore times out of the ACC, so its the schools left over in the Big 12.

 

[BallSoHard4Cy]

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I think it's possible that it is both a negotiating tactic for a better TV deal for the Big 12 and simultaneously looking elsewhere in case a new TV deal does not materialize

 

[Clone83]

From the 247 board 10 minutes ago

 

[scyclonekid]

Texas an OU moving to the SEC isn’t going to hurt their recruiting. If anything it might help.

Heard the same thing when Nebraska and mizzwho left

 

[NoCreativity]

Because our most prestigious conference foe would be West Virginia or Oklahoma State. You don’t see how that would be a harder sell to come play in that conference?

Oklahoma in football maybe. Texas has been underachieving in both sports since they joined.

I guess I'm not as doom and gloom as everyone else. Good players will play for Campbell whether they play Texas once a year or not. He's already proven he doesn't even need top talent to compete with those schools either. If the Big 12 stays together Campbell could dominate. Add BYU and Houston and you also have an Elite basketball conference.

You'd have 8 perrinial tournament teams and 3 Top 10 programs in the league.

 

[Cyforce]

Oklahoma in football maybe. Texas has been underachieving in both sports since they joined.

I guess I'm not as doom and gloom as everyone else. Good players will play for Campbell whether they play Texas once a year or not. He's already proven he doesn't even need top talent to compete with those schools either. If the Big 12 stays together Campbell could dominate. Add BYU and Houston and you also have an Elite basketball conference.

You'd have 8 perrinial tournament teams and 3 Top 10 programs in the league.

The only thing worse than adding another Texas school is adding BYU.

 

[JM4CY]

Oklahoma in football maybe. Texas has been underachieving in both sports since they joined.

I guess I'm not as doom and gloom as everyone else. Good players will play for Campbell whether they play Texas once a year or not. He's already proven he doesn't even need top talent to compete with those schools either. If the Big 12 stays together Campbell could dominate. Add BYU and Houston and you also have an Elite basketball conference.

You'd have 8 perrinial tournament teams and 3 Top 10 programs in the league.

Basketball is going to have little to nothing to do with any of this.

 

[Dr.bannedman]

Oklahoma in football maybe. Texas has been underachieving in both sports since they joined.

I guess I'm not as doom and gloom as everyone else. Good players will play for Campbell whether they play Texas once a year or not. He's already proven he doesn't even need top talent to compete with those schools either. If the Big 12 stays together Campbell could dominate. Add BYU and Houston and you also have an Elite basketball conference.

You'd have 8 perrinial tournament teams and 3 Top 10 programs in the league.

i'd rather die

 

[NoCreativity]

Because our most prestigious conference foe would be West Virginia or Oklahoma State. You don’t see how that would be a harder sell to come play in that conference?

I know it's basktball but Mark Few gets the best talent in the country to come and play Portland and Pepperdine twice a year late at night. I feel like players will gravitate towards winners.

 

[CyclonesFan4ever]

Considering the magnitude of this news today, I'd highly suggest @ChrisMWilliams, @brentblum and @JStanz51 have an emergency podcast ASAP (live on CFTV if possible) to give us their insights.

 

[NoCreativity]

Basketball is going to have little to nothing to do with any of this.

I'm well aware, does make for an elite basketball league though.

 

[jsb]

Oklahoma in football maybe. Texas has been underachieving in both sports since they joined.

I guess I'm not as doom and gloom as everyone else. Good players will play for Campbell whether they play Texas once a year or not. He's already proven he doesn't even need top talent to compete with those schools either. If the Big 12 stays together Campbell could dominate. Add BYU and Houston and you also have an Elite basketball conference.

You'd have 8 perrinial tournament teams and 3 Top 10 programs in the league.

You assume campbell will stay in a ****** conference.

 

[Pope]

I absolutely love the Cyclones, but we’ve been top 10 twice in our history, basketball won 2 games last year, our facilities are now just comparable to others (not elite), we don’t have a huge fanbase at all (although it’s an intensely loyal one), and our academics are plunging over the past 5 years (yes we are still AAU).

Of the 8 leftover schools we’d definitely rank behind KU and would be roughly comparable to Ok State, WV IMO. We could be a bit above K-State and TT, maybe. For sure we have more to market than either of the small private schools though.

We'd definitely rank behind KU?? We're both AAU institutions, so we're essentially on the same level academically. Football is king and KU has the worst football program in the country, while ours is ranked in the top 10. Their facilities are a joke compared to ours. And while their men's basketball program is highly ranked, it also operates under a dark cloud of NCAA violations.

 

[JP4CY]

I know it's basktball but Mark Few gets the best talent in the country to come and play Portland and Pepperdine twice a year late at night. I feel like players will gravitate towards winners.

Creighton enrollment wise has the same amount of undergrads as NICC in Calmar, IA.
Creighton has an almost NBA caliber type arena.

Basketball is just such a different animal.