Kansas to Big 10?

[Cyclones1969]

You are completely wrong, it did exactly what it was supposed to do.

Big Ten Network hits the NYC jackpot worth tens of millions of dollars

When the Big Ten added Rutgers and Maryland, the college sports world scratched their collective heads. Here were two schools that had little to no previous connection to the conference, a mediocre athletic resume (especially where it counts in football), and a distant geographic relationship...

awfulannouncing.com

I didn’t know anyone was arguing about the value to the big 10 network and basic cable Rutgers had 10 years ago.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

A pod of ISU, KU, Neb, and Iowa would be tight ******* butthole.

I don't know why the B1G would use pods at all if they added KU and ISU. They only have protected crossover rivalries for Indiana-Purdue and that would become a division game (when Purdue shifted to the East). The other protected rivalries rotate every 4-5 years anyway and aren't real protections. Adding ISU and KU makes for very straightforward 8-team divisions.

It would likely be a B1G West with Iowa State along with Kansas, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern, and Illinois. Play all of them + 2 of the 8 in the East; play every team in the East once every four years and bring them to Ames once every eight years.

 

[Dr.bannedman]

This thread is exhausting

Lol it’s 12 dumbasses (myself included) mashing their keyboards

 

[FarminCy]

Ugh. Another thread with no info but full of CFers responding to the bait that is the circular arguments of the Missouri troll.

 

[Statefan10]

You've been arguing for 2 weeks that Rutgers brought nothing to the table and the MSU guy drops the ******* bomb on you.

Lol nope he just proved me wrong and you know what I did? Acknowledged it and moved on. Unlike you who’s been throwing s*** at the wall like no other trying to prove that Iowa State is going to be screwed, while being put into mental pretzels because your arguments lack any sort of facts or logic. You then move the goal posts when you’re proved wrong.

 

[jcyclonee]

You are completely wrong, it did exactly what it was supposed to do.

Big Ten Network hits the NYC jackpot worth tens of millions of dollars

When the Big Ten added Rutgers and Maryland, the college sports world scratched their collective heads. Here were two schools that had little to no previous connection to the conference, a mediocre athletic resume (especially where it counts in football), and a distant geographic relationship...

awfulannouncing.com

The Big Ten was remarkably good at forcing cable companies to put their network on the cable company's widely distributed tiers. With cable subscriptions dropping and their being very little value to the cable companies in having Big Ten programming on these tiers, something is going to give. Either the network will be moved to more of a "sports-only" tier or the price will need to drop substantially. Basically, the revenue created by Rutgers belonging to the Big Ten is dropping and this lessening of revenue will probably accelerate. I understand that there is some sort of agreement with the Yes Network but they aren't going to keep paying the Big Ten what they want for programming with fewer and fewer viewers.

 

[deadeyededric]

The B1G felt the need to match the SEC once already both going to 14, and it worked for both. I’d be surprised if they don’t want to keep pace and go to 16.

Sure, they might try to raid the PAC first, and maybe even pass the SEC and go to 18 or 20. But Iowa State and KU make a lot of sense if you’re going to 16.

I think they'll make a run at USC, Oregon, Washington, and UCLA and if nothing happens they create a TV partnership with the Big 12 remaining teams.

 

[RustShack]

I don't know why the B1G would use pods at all if they added KU and ISU. They only have protected crossover rivalries for Indiana-Purdue and that would become a division game (when Purdue shifted to the East). The other protected rivalries rotate every 4-5 years anyway and aren't real protections. Adding ISU and KU makes for very straightforward 8-team divisions.

It would likely be a B1G West with Iowa State along with Kansas, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern, and Illinois. Play all of them + 2 of the 8 in the East; play every team in the East once every four years and bring them to Ames once every eight years.

That’s why Pods make more sense. You would play everyone in the conference at least every two years, and once at home every 4.

Plus the potential for a semi final round for the conference championship, which those two games would likely add some $$$ to the pot.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

That’s why Pods make more sense. You would play everyone in the conference at least every two years, and once at home every 4.

Plus the potential for a semi final round for the conference championship, which those two games would likely add some $$$ to the pot.

You can't come up with pods that keep enough schools happy. Iowa would hate the pod you proposed earlier; they would want to get annual games against all of Wisconsin/Minnesota/Nebraska/Iowa State. There are plenty of examples like this.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Ugh. Another thread with no info but full of CFers responding to the bait that is the circular arguments of the Missouri troll.

I was thinking about blocking but those 4 clicks are a lot of work.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

The Big Ten was remarkably good at forcing cable companies to put their network on the cable company's widely distributed tiers. With cable subscriptions dropping and their being very little value to the cable companies in having Big Ten programming on these tiers, something is going to give. Either the network will be moved to more of a "sports-only" tier or the price will need to drop substantially. Basically, the revenue created by Rutgers belonging to the Big Ten is dropping and this lessening of revenue will probably accelerate. I understand that there is some sort of agreement with the Yes Network but they aren't going to keep paying the Big Ten what they want for programming with fewer and fewer viewers.

Live sports are one of the few things you can count on for advertising and ratings. They will continue to be able to charge what they want for at least the next media cycle. Agreed though that with the changing landscape rutgers brings very little. Who knows though they have the number 15 ranked recruiting class, maybe they pull an ISU and figure things out.

 

[RustShack]

You can't come up with pods that keep enough schools happy. Iowa would hate the pod you proposed earlier; they would want to get annual games against all of Wisconsin/Minnesota/Nebraska/Iowa State. There are plenty of examples like this.

And you’d still run into it with divisions. As long as OSU and Michigan are in a pod that works for them, then it’s all good. Do you actually think the B1G cares if they make Iowa fans a little sad every other year?

 

[cyIclSoneU]

And you’d still run into it with divisions. As long as OSU and Michigan are in a pod that works for them, then it’s all good. Do you actually think the B1G cares if they make Iowa fans a little sad every other year?

The whole point here is that you don't really run into it with divisions. You don't lose out on any rivalry that is currently being protected at all.

If the B1G did pods, one of them would definitely be Michigan/Michigan State/Ohio State/Penn State. Right off the bat, this makes for some really dumb possibilities, like sticking Maryland and Rutgers with whoever the hell has room.

And to your point of whether the B1G cares if it makes Iowa fans sad... who do you think "the B1G" is? There would be 14 decision-makers in the room each looking out for their school's interests. They aren't going to expand without knowing at least the broad-strokes picture of what football will look like. And yes, if Kevin Warren said "we'll do pods," even Gary Barta would realize that that would mean one of his four big rivalry games wouldn't get played every year. And other ADs would recognize the same. Divisions are so much better IMO.

 

[RustShack]

It also doesn’t feel like a conference if you only play a conference opponent once every 5+ years.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

It also doesn’t feel like a conference if you only play a conference opponent once every 5+ years.

The SEC already does even worse than I proposed; even now with 14 teams, you play the 6 schools in the opposite division that are not your protected rival just once every 6 years. And they are doing just fine having Alabama play Georgia and Florida only that often.

Fans prefer playing schools that they have feelings about and schools prefer cheaper travel costs. Why would Arkansas want to make sure that they play Tennessee more frequently if it means fewer games against LSU or Ole Miss?

 

[RustShack]

The SEC already does even worse than I proposed; even now with 14 teams, you play the 6 schools in the opposite division that are not your protected rival just once every 6 years. And they are doing just fine having Alabama play Georgia and Florida only that often.

Fans prefer playing schools that they have feelings about and schools prefer cheaper travel costs. Why would Arkansas want to make sure that they play Tennessee more frequently if it means fewer games against LSU or Ole Miss?

Obviously we all know the lopsided scheduling has benefited both conferences. You look more top heavy when you don’t have to play other top teams and can get more wins.

 

[mattyheiden]

I didn’t know anyone was arguing about the value to the big 10 network and basic cable Rutgers had 10 years ago.

It’s on Hulu, Fox Sports apps and YouTube TV streaming services as well

 

[isucy86]

That’s why Pods make more sense. You would play everyone in the conference at least every two years, and once at home every 4.

Plus the potential for a semi final round for the conference championship, which those two games would likely add some $$$ to the pot.

Divisions make sense. And I agree if there are 4 divisions, then a semi and Conference Championship would be a TV ratings win for the BIG10. The non-semi teams could play a +1 for the 12th game.

However, I think the Big10 would move away from geographic divisions & attempt to balance strength of each. Makes sense to have OSU, Michigan, Penn State and Wisky to be in different divisions. The schedule could be such that the OSU/Mich divisions play each year. Same goes for PSU/Wisky.

Once the 8 or 12 team playoff begins, the key is to get as many teams into that money grab. IMO a 12 team playoff could end need for Conference Championship Games.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

You go to 4 pods with 4 teams each. Each school plays the other three teams in the pod each year, for 3 games, and then you play 2 teams from the other 3 pods one year, and then the other 2 the next year, for a total of 6 more games. 9 total conference games.

Every team plays everyone in the conference every 2 years, and you host everyone once every four years.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

The pods could be something like this:

West Neb, ISU, KU, and Iowa
North Minn, Wisc. NW and Illin.
Lakes Mich., Mich. St, Indiana, Ohio State
East Purdue, Penn St. Rutgers and Maryland.

Insures that Mich, MSU and OSU plays every year, and every conference school plays everyone else every other year.