Kansas to Big 10?

[BCClone]

That’s why Pods make more sense. You would play everyone in the conference at least every two years, and once at home every 4.

Plus the potential for a semi final round for the conference championship, which those two games would likely add some $$$ to the pot.

If this happens with semis, and the the CFP goes to 12, there is potential for teams to be playing 18 games. 12 regular with semis and losing the CCG. They would play first round of CFP, quarters of CFP, semis of CFP and finals. People ball at 15 now when the semis of the 4 team initiated. That could be 3 more additional.

 

[cytor]

Ok, I'm going to throw this out here:

I keep hearing the "ISU will not go to the B1G" crowd using this as their argument: The B1G already has the state of Iowa covered and we will gain no additional viewership by adding ISU.

So here is my question: How many ISU fans watch the Hok football team every weekend religiously? If everyone answers YES, then it is true, the B1G network does not gain any more viewers than it already has.

My answer is I DO NOT watch the hoks play. Once I watch ISU game, I move on with my saturday and get things done around the house or peek into other Big 12 games. If ISU ends up in the B1G, the network gains me as a paying customer.

What say you?

 

[StPaulCyclone]

I cant definitively comment, but my nephew was just choosing between ISU and Minny and the cost was basically the same per my sister.

He starts at Minny in a few weeks! Sad face, i was hoping he would go here obviously.

From personal experience, depending on gpa, they can be comparable. However, it has nothing to do with residency.

 

[FeedBreece]

I never know what I’m going to get jumping into these threads.

Half of the time it’s people ecstatic because we’re absolutely joining the Big 10.

The other half of the time it’s people saying their goodbyes because it was a nice run, but there’s no point in following a team inevitably falling to a G5 rank.

 

[cytor]

If the Angry 8 stay together and merge with the Pac, I truly hope they find a way to keep the BB tournament in KC, or at least 2 years on and 2 years off kind of thing. I would miss going to KC big time.

 

[Raiders70]

Ok, I'm going to throw this out here:

I keep hearing the "ISU will not go to the B1G" crowd using this as their argument: The B1G already has the state of Iowa covered and we will gain no additional viewership by adding ISU.

So here is my question: How many ISU fans watch the Hok football team every weekend religiously? If everyone answers YES, then it is true, the B1G network does not gain any more viewers than it already has.

My answer is I DO NOT watch the hoks play. Once I watch ISU game, I move on with my saturday and get things done around the house or peek into other Big 12 games. If ISU ends up in the B1G, the network gains me as a paying customer.

What say you?

I always watch them when they play Iowa State.

 

[cyclonepower]

If the Angry 8 stay together and merge with the Pac, I truly hope they find a way to keep the BB tournament in KC, or at least 2 years on and 2 years off kind of thing. I would miss going to KC big time.

yeah, i wouldnt count on that...i would imagine it will stay in Vegas, maybe as far east as Denver every once in a while

 

[cytor]

yeah, i wouldnt count on that...i would imagine it will stay in Vegas, maybe as far east as Denver every once in a while

Vegas? Not a bad alternative. Could be a lot worse.

 

[LLCoolCY]

If the Angry 8 stay together and merge with the Pac, I truly hope they find a way to keep the BB tournament in KC, or at least 2 years on and 2 years off kind of thing. I would miss going to KC big time.

Actually this is an aspect I haven't seen discussed if the merger occurred. The PAC12 is in the position of power and I would guess the would keep the headquarters in CA and likely keep the new PAC20 tourneys on the west coast likely Vegas. Of course if ISU/KU join the Big 10 we would be traveling to Chicago/Indianapolis/NYC for the tourney. Hilton south is likely dead unless the B12 tries to survive.

We already heard some whispers the texas schools were tired of coming up to KC but with KU and ISU being the basketball draw (regardless of record) it made the most since to stay in KC.

 

[Cyched]

We already heard some whispers the texas schools were tired of coming up to KC but with KU and ISU being the basketball draw (regardless of record) it made the most since to stay in KC.

I always felt like Dallas for football and KC for basketball was a fair compromise. So I’m not surprised TX had a problem with it

 

[85clone]

Ok, I'm going to throw this out here:

I keep hearing the "ISU will not go to the B1G" crowd using this as their argument: The B1G already has the state of Iowa covered and we will gain no additional viewership by adding ISU.

So here is my question: How many ISU fans watch the Hok football team every weekend religiously? If everyone answers YES, then it is true, the B1G network does not gain any more viewers than it already has.

My answer is I DO NOT watch the hoks play. Once I watch ISU game, I move on with my saturday and get things done around the house or peek into other Big 12 games. If ISU ends up in the B1G, the network gains me as a paying customer.

What say you?

This is a great question. I also move on without watching Iowa or any other B1G game. I usually watch one or two other Big12 games if free. If we were to move to the B1G, then I would absolutely continue interest and preference for conference games and might tune in for a random Illinois/Iowa or Minnesota/Michigan State game earlier or later in the day. I think there'd be quite a bit of additional interest and eyeballs across the state in B1G televised or streamed games.

 

[Brandon]

Wake me when this is over.

 

[LLCoolCY]

This is a great question. I also move on without watching Iowa or any other B1G game. I usually watch one or two other Big12 games if free. If we were to move to the B1G, then I would absolutely continue interest and preference for conference games and might tune in for a random Illinois/Iowa or Minnesota/Michigan State game earlier or later in the day. I think there'd be quite a bit of additional interest and eyeballs across the state in B1G televised or streamed games.

I agree my interest in the random B1G game would increase and I'd replace my OSU/TT game watching with the Mich/Minny type games if ISU were in the B1G.
That said the idea came out of BTN forcing the cable companies to add the network to their packages thus I was/am paying for the channel regardless if it is watched or not. The argument is that having Iowa in the state already forced the BTN on the states TV's and adding ISU doesn't add new subscribers. It is a lesser argument in todays cable cutter era but still an important aspect of the argument to add specific schools.

 

[cytor]

The more prominent ISU gets, the more eyeballs they will get regardless of conference. The question is: Does the B1G want to cash in on it? Lord know the West division needs it badly.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Ok, I'm going to throw this out here:

I keep hearing the "ISU will not go to the B1G" crowd using this as their argument: The B1G already has the state of Iowa covered and we will gain no additional viewership by adding ISU.

So here is my question: How many ISU fans watch the Hok football team every weekend religiously? If everyone answers YES, then it is true, the B1G network does not gain any more viewers than it already has.

My answer is I DO NOT watch the hoks play. Once I watch ISU game, I move on with my saturday and get things done around the house or peek into other Big 12 games. If ISU ends up in the B1G, the network gains me as a paying customer.

What say you?

Doesn't matter if you watch or not, if you have Mediacom or many other cable outlets in the state, you are already paying for BTN. That was the genius of the system. they get to collect from every home in the state that has it on cable or satellite TV. The network gets to charge you more if the conference has a team in the state, less if you are in say Missouri without a team.

That is why they keep saying "ISU will not bring in new money into the conference." but its also an outdated way of thinking going forward because of cord cutting, and the further down the road we go, the less the Big 10 will be able to do this.

 

[Naddafinga]

I guess it could work.

 

[cytor]

Having the network and WATCHING the network to me are 2 different things. The more viewers, the More $ the B1G network can charge their advertisers. Having the network means having access to it... not necessarily watching it.

For the record, I do not have it at this moment. If ISU gets in, I will most certainly open up the checkbook.

 

[ghyland7]

Ok, I'm going to throw this out here:

I keep hearing the "ISU will not go to the B1G" crowd using this as their argument: The B1G already has the state of Iowa covered and we will gain no additional viewership by adding ISU.

So here is my question: How many ISU fans watch the Hok football team every weekend religiously? If everyone answers YES, then it is true, the B1G network does not gain any more viewers than it already has.

My answer is I DO NOT watch the hoks play. Once I watch ISU game, I move on with my saturday and get things done around the house or peek into other Big 12 games. If ISU ends up in the B1G, the network gains me as a paying customer.

What say you?

I think your sentiment is right that ISU fans don't watch Iowa much. Hopefully with this realignment, streaming eyeballs matter. I think ISU has a large and growing fan base which, like you say, doesn't care about University of Iowa.

However, it isn't as much about the number of eyeballs on the screen. The B1G Network gets its money from the mediacoms of the world who choose to carry the station. The point is that all the major providers in Iowa already carry the B1G network because of the affiliation with Iowa. Even if most ISU fans don't watch B1G network, most ISU fans with cable have the channel available.

All of that said, I think ISU has a lot to offer with a large fanbase. We have had huge enrollment and a lot of recent success. I think in a streaming world (where everything is closer to a more "pay per view" model), ISU is a lot more attractive for realignment purposes.

 

[cytor]

Another thing to consider.... colleges that have a hard time selling all their tickets (Gophers for example) would have no problem getting rid of them when ISU shows up.

 

[Klubber]

The BIG is currently likely in negotiations with FOX for 2023 new deal... It is estimated that the BIG total package will amount to around $800 Million a year or $57Mil per school..at 14 teams.

FOX does not assume all 14 teams are worth $57 mil annually. tOSU is prob worth $120mil a year...etc.. Same for every conference really.

But as a collective group total is likely around $800 mil. Now......

If the BIG adds say ISU/KU...prior to this new deal it is not going to still be $800 Mil it will be prob $850 Mil. ISU/KU doesnt add ZERO....LMAO. This is a low estimate for ISU/KU btw IMO.

$850 Mil with 16 teams is around $53mil.

So in theory that is $4mil less per BIG team. But wait.. ISU/KU will receive a partial share for let's say 7 years (see Nebraska, Rutgers etc..)...Half a share is $26.5 Mil per year for ISU and KU each.

Or...$800 mil left for remaining 14 teams roughly.. ZERO net loss for the BIG for first 7 years..

Add to that it is possible ISU/KU offer to provide the BIG with the Tx/Ou exit fees and penalites and you likely have ISU/KU not costing the BIG anything extra for a decade..

If the future is streaming and subscriptions which are likely based on fan enthusiasm etc.. Then adding ISU fball and KU bball is only going to add to the BIG a decade from now..

Unlike Rutgers and Maryland and several other BIG schools IMO.

Yeah, and it's truly amazing how many national sports writers can't grasp the gist of what you're saying.

Adam Rittenberg yesterday saying "adding ISU/KU to the B1G would mean less $ per school" is an example. And this is absolutely false. Neither would add as much as say Southern Cal, but they would add money to the next TV deal for sure based on inventory alone.