IOWA STATE TO BIG TEN?!? Dave Wannstedt thinks so.

[cyfan92]

I wonder how this compares to other universities

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[scyclonekid]

Yet Dave says he doesn’t have facts, lol. More speculation with no facts to back it up.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

I would honestly be curious as to how much tail that guy has gotten through the years. What's the O/U?

I would set the O/U at all of the tail.

 

[Trice]

Wannstedt prefaces his comments with “I don’t have anything, you know, that’s factual.”

I’m afraid that might sum it up. Everything he said after that was the same kind of speculation you can find on any message board.

Also, "I'm kind of in the loop somewhat." Give him credit, he's not trying to mislead anyone about what he knows. But it's hard to listen to what he's said and call it anything more than informed speculation.

Interestingly, the part about the B1G expansion was the part he sounded least confident about this time around. He threw it in near the end and it seemed even more speculative than everything else he said.

 

[NorthCyd]

So it sounds like he probably had drinks with a couple low to mid level fox people that wanted to sound like they were in the know to impress Dave Wannstedt.

 

[AppleCornCy]

This is true but he probably does have at least a little more insight than the rest of us idiots that are posting on a message board.

Well, not all of us are idiots but I certainly am.

In a way, but just listen to the way he talks about West Virginia to the ACC being obvious and something that should have happened a long time ago. I agree with that, but there were reasons the ACC didn’t invite West Virginia in the past, mostly related to their market size. He completely ignores that and doesn’t explain what’s different now.

Yesterday he said “that’s done” about Kansas State and Oklahoma State to the Pac-12. The way he describes it in this video, it’s far from done. He barely even mentioned K-State.

I don’t think the analysts on TV know a whole lot more than we do. Their bosses do though. We won’t hear anything from them.

 

[CascadeClone]

If I'm the Pac 12 I absolutely expand and the work with Amazon on getting the conference network of f the ground. There is a ridiculous amount of untapped potential there.

I would be shocked if the Pac12 does not expand in the next 3-5 years. I think there are many possible upsides for them, and the status quo ante is not really sustainable.

I would however NOT be shocked if they come out tomorrow and say they are not expanding at the present time. (Que the sky is falling crowd)

I actually expect them to say, we think expansion probably makes sense, so we are going to form a big fat committee of very important people to study it for a good while. We will let you know how it's going in the spring...

 

[Gunnerclone]

I would honestly be curious as to how much tail that guy has gotten through the years. What's the O/U?

I would set the O/U at a **** ton.

 

[CascadeClone]

I’ve never been the biggest Bowlsby fan, but this whole thing isn’t his fault. I mean, nobody outside of an inner circle knew this was going on until A&M spilled the beans (and I can’t help but think that was done intentionally as one final jab at the school they hate the most). I’m not going to be mad at Bowlsby because he’s not a fortune teller.

And A&M didn't know about it either until it was a fait accompli. Bowlsby may have been stabbed in the back, but A&M got stabbed in the front, imho.

It's like if all your buddies invited your crazy ex to your birthday party, and then spent all their time talking to her instead of you. And then one of them takes her home for the night.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

And A&M didn't know about it either until it was a fait accompli. Bowlsby may have been stabbed in the back, but A&M got stabbed in the front, imho.

It's like if all your buddies invited your crazy ex to your birthday party, and then spent all their time talking to her instead of you. And then one of them takes her home for the night.

The SEC's apology to A&M will be to schedule the first UT-A&M SEC game in College Station. Otherwise, sit there and shut up Aggies

 

[Cloneon]

So it sounds like he probably had drinks with a couple low to mid level fox people that wanted to sound like they were in the know to impress Dave Wannstedt.

Or he was post informed his comments could result in legal/investigative knowledge which could undermine a plan they have. In other words, "Dave, this was said in confidentiality." This could end up as a pretty good novel someday. Either 'fiction' or 'non-fiction' or 'fiction based on fact' or 'fantasy'. Take your pick, but time is ticking.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Solid summary and opinions from The Tailgate Society:

Re-alignment Realities: What options do B12 schools have? – The Tailgate Society

Week after week, terrible headline after terrible headline, Iowa State fans are bombarded with news of Armageddon in the college football world. Every headline

thetailgatesociety.com

"Luckily after Tuesday’s press conference, it does not seem this is what The Alliance is aiming to do. The commissioners made sure to emphatically state that they want the B12 to have a place, along with other conferences. My read on that is that the truth in the statement is that the schools in the B12 are what is important, not the conference itself. It appears to me that the B12 is being left out because The Alliance wants an option to expand through these remaining 8 teams and increase the power of their numbers fighting the SEC/ESPN takeover. I do not think expending major energy and public relations capital on removing the A5 status of the B12 rates very high on the priority list for The Alliance, and rightfully so."

 

[WesternPA]

The actual research dollars aren't going to get split by the conference members. It's more about the Big 10 and its schools being able to tout the research dollars in the conference. While I think the BTAA is not really a big deal, it probably doesn't hurt in getting some collaborations going.

As I think I shared before, ISU has a couple of new $10M fed projects, one with ISU as the lead working with PSU, and one with Wisconsin as the lead with ISU as the next biggest partner. ISU has a lot of partnerships in research with Big 10 schools. I can say that of the schools I've worked with on substantial projects, OU is the only Big 12 school I've ever worked with. Meanwhile, I have worked with PSU, Wisconsin in a significant way, Minn., Ill., Iowa, and Neb less directly, and have worked on some minor collaborative stuff with Michigan and MSU.

So I don't think it really helps the other institutions research in a direct way, but it's more about a step toward boosting the overall academic profile of the conference, and getting some important areas of research fully covered.

Thanks for that additional knowledge. Question to further understand: When you seek that $10 million outside grant and list assistance from, say PSU people, as a part of that application, do you list a dollar value in the proposal that will be paid to the PSU researcher? I realize it is part of the overall grant, but does ISU count the entire $10 million on its books or does PSU count part of that grant money, paid through ISU, in their research funding totals?

 

[scyclonekid]

I’ll wait for Jamie and Dr. Wintersteen to say what’s actually going to happen.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I’ll wait for Jamie and Dr. Wintersteen to say what’s actually going to happen.

K. See you then.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

I’ll wait for Jamie and Dr. Wintersteen to say what’s actually going to happen.

Another fireside chat?

 

[werdnamanhill]

Another fireside chat?

Please no

 

[AuH2O]

Thanks for that additional knowledge. Question to further understand: When you seek that $10 million outside grant and list assistance from, say PSU people, as a part of that application, do you list a dollar value in the proposal that will be paid to the PSU researcher? I realize it is part of the overall grant, but does ISU count the entire $10 million on its books or does PSU count part of that grant money, paid through ISU, in their research funding totals?

Almost always in a press release it will state the total amount. In other words, if it says ISU is leading a $10 grant w/ PSU, it might be $6m to ISU and $4m to PSU.

Edit to better answer your question- I suspect in the hypothetical above ISU would report the full $10m since they are the lead and PSU would report their cut of $4M. So there will be some duplication if you have collaborations among conference schools and then simply add all the schools’ research dollars and state it as a conference total.

 

[MugNight]

It would be foolish to expand now. Why put all our chips on the table? Texas and OU are scheduled to play a Big 12 conference slate until 2025. Until that changes, there’s no need to make the move. It’s not like the BACCPAC teams are going to expand with G5 over the R8. Those teams will be on the table when and if the time comes to add

 

[Cloneon]

It would be foolish to expand now. Why put all our chips on the table? Texas and OU are scheduled to play a Big 12 conference slate until 2025. Until that changes, there’s no need to make the move. It’s not like the BACCPAC teams are going to expand with G5 over the R8. Those teams will be on the table when and if the time comes to add

Makes sense except for speculative entities (eg recruiting) which could accelerate any plan.