IOWA STATE TO BIG TEN?!? Dave Wannstedt thinks so.

[Gunnerclone]

Have you tasted the water in Michigan, Ohio, or Western Pennsylvania?

Clean, beautiful, coal baby!

 

[MeanDean]

You have to explore what expansion looks like and what the effects are on the revenue stream from TV. This will help and calculating the tortious interference damages. There are several irons in the fire and you got to keep working all of them at the same time.

Plus if most of the remaining 8 find soft landing spots and a few, maybe 4 don't (perhaps Baylor, TCU and KSU among them- who seem to, in my mind, be least likely to) there is a baseline for them to potentially go forward with the Big XII name and try to get the best of the AAC type teams to migrate into a 10 team Big XII reconstituted conference.

If nothing else it gives the idea that it's not every man for himself and if you are the unlucky one maybe there's an option to keep the conference name and title and what little cache' that might carry.

 

[AuH2O]

Clean, beautiful, coal baby!

Swung through Toledo on a road trip this summer. Breathtakingly beautiful city.

 

[CloneGuy8]

We are toast. UCF taking a wait and see approach is a kick in the nuts.

 

[FatNTired]

I think the foundation does a poor job of showing how they support the university. State funding has gone down, as well know. For the past five to seven years we've hovered close to a billion dollars in the endowment. This 1.5 billion dollar fundraiser obviously is collected over time. I do not know how much has been collected versus will be collected.

As an example only, if the endowment made 8% on their billion dollar endowment, then that is $80 million. 80 to 90% of that $80 million is given back to the university on an annual basis and 10 to 20% of the gain is retained to continue to grow the endowment.

The campaign was comprehensive, meaning the $1.5B total includes annual giving. The total also includes planned gifts.

Yeah, I understand the basics of the foundation. Was just curious why we seemed light, but didn't think of the collection period could be 10 years. Basically we have 1.5B in pledges and donations, but maybe only 500 MM in donations with a billion coming in pledges. I do see the foundation bumped up their payments to the University by 20 MM in 2019.

Higher-ed typically utilizes a 5 year pledge period. Foundation accounting most often includes the pledge amount in the overall endowment figure. So, if I pledged $100K in 2020 with a five-year pledge, the published endowment figure includes my $100k despite having five years to fulfill the pledge.

 

[Cyched]

People. Don’t take the troll bait

 

[jcyclonee]

Sometimes my endowment is higher and sometimes it is lower. It's just nature.

At all times, your endowment is pretty insignificant.

 

[jcyclonee]

Listen, this whole "expansion committee" is all optics. There is no way JP and WW are hitching their wagons to this without making multiple attempts with the B1G and Pac. We are WAY too early in the process to just settle for plan C.

My favorite contingencies are Plan DD and Plan 69.

By the way, there has to be a pron movie titled Plan 69 from Outer Space, right?

 

[cygrads]

Texas Tech AD Kirby Hocutt says Big 12 expansion plans are under way

Texas Tech athletics director Kirby Hocutt is a member of four-person subcommittee tasked with leading Big 12 efforts to add new members.

amp.lubbockonline.com

Anybody else notice that a link in the story touting TT has sold 21k season tickets - yikes!

 

[jcyclonee]

Anybody else notice that a link in the story touting TT has sold 21k season tickets - yikes!

Too much competition from rodeos in the fall.

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

Plus if most of the remaining 8 find soft landing spots and a few, maybe 4 don't (perhaps Baylor, TCU and KSU among them- who seem to, in my mind, be least likely to) there is a baseline for them to potentially go forward with the Big XII name and try to get the best of the AAC type teams to migrate into a 10 team Big XII reconstituted conference.

If nothing else it gives the idea that it's not every man for himself and if you are the unlucky one maybe there's an option to keep the conference name and title and what little cache' that might carry.

Will stated. Absolutely, this would provide a strategy for who remains if the big boys decide to expand in the next two years.

 

[Statefan10]

F*** Stewert Mandel and his lazy ass takes.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Would be the best financial option and one of the top competitive ones.

 

[Statefan10]

Would be the best financial option and one of the top competitive ones.

I love how they say “seriously discussing BYU” and then immediately state it’s still very early in the process lol. That’s the exact same thing as saying the B1G is seriously considering KU and ISU (they make the most sense).

 

[Cyclones1969]

Yes, but as all that time slips away, so does the ability of our coaches to recruit, the ability of ISU to give coaches $$ and a roadmap/reason to stay, and the ability to convince donors to continuing ponying up for an uncertain future.

I'm not arguing that we should expand - i'm saying that the H8 don't have all this time to figure out where we fit.

I guess they had better get started trying to figure out where Iowa State ends up then. They’ve wasted all this time doing nothing. They better get on the ball and get everything done before the season starts

 

[scyclonekid]

Have you tasted the water in Michigan, Ohio, or Western Pennsylvania?

I have mouthwatering just like the fruit in Michigan!! It’s all coming together now lol.

 

[Cyclones1969]

I love how they say “seriously discussing BYU” and then immediately state it’s still very early in the process lol. That’s the exact same thing as saying the B1G is seriously considering KU and ISU (they make the most sense).

Because the athletic is an unbiased source with no agenda in this.

They just know they’ll hook some of the less critical thinking fish, and get this some legs. Soon people will believe it

 

[Statefan10]

Because the athletic is an unbiased source with no agenda in this.

They just know they’ll hook some of the less critical thinking fish, and get this some legs. Soon people will believe it

I hope you’re being sarcastic lol

 

[Cyclones1969]

I hope you’re being sarcastic lol

Of course I am.

it’s amazing the same people believe those sources, are going to be happier with Iowa State going to the g5, because it would mean they are right, then they would be if we went to the big 10 at full share value immediately

 

[NorthCyd]

Would be the best financial option and one of the top competitive ones.

Barf, but its the most likely outcome of this situation unfortunately.