Now that I've calmed down...

[WhoISthis]

First I'll answer, then a question back at you. OK?

Our offense doesn't look good. Out of sync if you will. I agree. I believe the players are not being coached to fumble the ball, etc. But **** happens. Much of what happened yesterday is on them.

Special teams is where I agree with you totally. Catch a freaking punt? Right? I bet Milton wasn't told to not catch it. Players either make the plays or they don't. Unless you think that the coaches told him not to?

Question now...

What do you propose we do?

It’s been the same **** for years. When that’s the case, it’s coaching.

In 2019 we had not won the turnover margin in 13 of 17 games at one point. We suck on ST. Not winning the margins.

We confuse winning the margins (execution) with ball control, the latter of which we can’t coach/develop/recruit well. Manning has no feel how to call these types of games, and the players not best suited for them.

Our passing game lacks nuance needed to manufacture space and separation. Nuance is preparation, so start with practicing what you’re good at, rather than some half-ass ball control **** for the first 7 quarters of the season . That’s one reason why October is usually better, we’ve gotten timing down after being forced to actually play, rather than pillow fight. Of course this is assuming Manning is good enough at play sequence (not just what plays are called in a game), which I have my doubts

We have not had a good punt return unit for many years under this staff. Conceding yards, but also blunders (2019 Iowa says hi).

assuming Manning cant be upgraded midseason (and it isn’t actually a CMC issue), start with moving Purdy around more.Roll outs with run option threats. Limit the field he needs to read, give the defense more looks, reduce importance of timing and arm strength.

Play Dekkers, at first like Lanning, then more when the defense justifies it. Work in more two back sets and motion.

 

[clonehoodie]

How bad was Dekkers hurt by VanValkenberg on the roughing the passer call late in the 4th ?
Did he get a bruise?

 

[Gonzo]

The offensive stats from Iowa don't speak quite as much to me because we gave them very short fields to work on multiple occasions. You won't out up gaudy stats taking over well inside the 50 every drive.

That's said, observations for each team. ISU has offensive problems. Lot of plays and some players that were visibly out of sync. Many of the same issues this week as last week (except the turnovers). Defense was awesome given how much they were on the field and how often they were given short fields to defend. They shaved many points from Iowa.

For Iowa, Petras is a glaring weak spot. Later in the game there was called plays designed for him to throw long balls downfield, back shoulder throws, back of the endzone, etc. and he missed practically all of them. Conference teams will notice and adjust for this. Two weeks in a row now Iowa has not had to depend on their offense to really create much due to the defense scoring and producing. That's not gonna stay that way forever, and that offense struggled to drive and produce on its own. I feel like their run game is lacking threat as well, but that could be a result of how well our D played.

I left the game thinking we're clearly not as good as I expected us to be, and right now, I still believe that to be true. We've got a few weeks of easier games all in a row coming up and we need to see some major progress during them offensively. Iowa is good apart from the offense, if that gets going, they have a good chance to win their division.

Not only did he miss them, on at least one play he missed a wide open guy running a 10-12 yard crossing route and instead went for the back of the end zone touch pass to a guy who was pretty well covered.

SP is still a concern for me. I think he looks more poised in the pocket than he did last year and seems like a good field general. But his accuracy and judgment are still question marks. I'm not as worried about the running game. The OL will continue to gel and yesterday we were up against a really good D.

 

[cygrads]

It's like CMC's decision to not hire a ST coach means he's okay with losing that part of every game. Punt return and coverage is not even a push it's something the other parts of our team has to makeup for.

 

[DurangoCy]

Iowa's average starting spot was the 42 yard line. If you take out the turnovers, they averaged the 35 yard line.

ISU's average was the 20 yard line.

That's the game right there.

Iowa, Iowa'd the **** out of us yesterday and it's sickening because everyone in the state knew that was the plan.

 

[BCClone]

How bad was Dekkers hurt by VanValkenberg on the roughing the passer call late in the 4th ?
Did he get a bruise?

Not only did he miss them, on at least one play he missed a wide open guy running a 10-12 yard crossing route and instead went for the back of the end zone touch pass to a guy who was pretty well covered.

SP is still a concern for me. I think he looks more poised in the pocket than he did last year and seems like a good field general. But his accuracy and judgment are still question marks. I'm not as worried about the running game. The OL will continue to gel and yesterday we were up against a really good D.

This isn’t the ISR forums trolls. Stay where you belong.

 

[Allikat]

As I sit watching the Cincinnati Bungles and Minnesota Vikings, I think us fans can help.

Minnesota has a plethora of false starts as Cincy fans are screaming on every play.

Why do we only get “loud“ on third down? I wasn’t at the Iowa game but at the UNI game my fellow stand mates seemed annoyed when I yelled at all, heaven forbid I yell on first or second down even with UNI near my section.

Let’s lick our wounds, trust in Campbell to fix execution, and focus on being the best fans we can be.

 

[cygrads]

As I sit watching the Cincinnati Bungles and Minnesota Vikings, I think us fans can help.

Minnesota has a plethora of false starts as Cincy fans are screaming on every play.

Why do we only get “loud“ on third down? I wasn’t at the Iowa game but at the UNI game my fellow stand mates seemed annoyed when I yelled at all, heaven forbid I yell on first or second down even with UNI near my section.

Let’s lick our wounds, trust in Campbell to fix execution, and focus on being the best fans we can be.

I'm yelling on every defensive down cause they all count but I'm only one of two or three in section 29 that does.

 

[cycjob]

I've been trying to figure out for a while, why among our receivers can only Hutchinson seem to get separation? I keep hearing that Scates is fast, but he never seems to get open. Milton does occasionally get space, but rarely. Are our routes predictable? It seems like the defense knows where the ball is going better than our own guys do. That makes life hard for Purdy. Just my opinion.

 

[CyCloned]

I re-watched the Purdy interceptions. One was tipped. One should have been caught. One was underthrown, but Iowa DB got away with a pretty bad hold to slow the WR. All in all they were not as bad as I initially thought. Purdy was just a little off, which he has been in games before, like Baylor last year. Give Iowa a lot of credit for getting hands up and tipping several passes.

Of all of the TOs the one by Hall was the most painful.

 

[BringBackJohnny]

4 turnovers almost never happens. Still don’t fathom how that happens. Almost all on first downs. That’s just like no focus or something all I can think of.

 

[CNECloneFan]

"Fact of the matter is" that we turned the ball over 4 times. Stats below...

Total yards: Us 339 to their 173
Passing yards: Us 252 to their 106
Rushing yards: Us 87 to their 67
Yards per play: Us 4.9 to their 2.9
First downs: Us 21 to their 11

FUMBLES LOST: Us 1 to their 0
INTERCEPTIONS THROWN: Us 3 to their 0

That was the problem. Not play calling.

Imagine how frustrating it must be to play defense for Iowa State. I found myself thinking that a lot yesterday.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

As I sit watching the Cincinnati Bungles and Minnesota Vikings, I think us fans can help.

Minnesota has a plethora of false starts as Cincy fans are screaming on every play.

Why do we only get “loud“ on third down? I wasn’t at the Iowa game but at the UNI game my fellow stand mates seemed annoyed when I yelled at all, heaven forbid I yell on first or second down even with UNI near my section.

Let’s lick our wounds, trust in Campbell to fix execution, and focus on being the best fans we can be.

And why does our crowd make a lot of noise when we’re on OFFENSE in the red zone and third down? I can only shake my head whenever it hear it get loud when we’re on offense.

 

[3TrueFans]

And why does our crowd make a lot of noise when we’re on OFFENSE in the red zone and third down? I can only shake my head whenever it hear it get loud when we’re on offense.

I don’t think that really happened on Saturday honestly. Once when we had it on the south side it started to and then our fans mostly stopped.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

I don’t think that really happened on Saturday honestly. Once when we had it on the south side it started to and then our fans mostly stopped.

I heard it in both games, though I give saturday a bit of a pass because there were probably a good amount of Iowa fans there.

 

[madguy30]

I've been trying to figure out for a while, why among our receivers can only Hutchinson seem to get separation? I keep hearing that Scates is fast, but he never seems to get open. Milton does occasionally get space, but rarely. Are our routes predictable? It seems like the defense knows where the ball is going better than our own guys do. That makes life hard for Purdy. Just my opinion.

Wish there were more sky cam/long views of these long throws that get picked off over the years because it usually looks like they have a step before having to go back and play db vs. the opponent.

 

[Cyhig]

It’s not just 4 turnovers vs 0. All 4 turnovers were on the ISU side of the field.

Turnover #1: Iowa starts on ISU 49 yard line (Iowa goes 49 yards for TD)
Turnover #2: fumble return for TD
Turnover #3: Iowa starts on ISU 25 (field goal)
Turnover #4: Iowa starts on ISU 22 (field goal)

You won’t win any games with these types of turnovers.

 

[madguy30]

It’s been the same **** for years. When that’s the case, it’s coaching.

In 2019 we had not won the turnover margin in 13 of 17 games at one point. We suck on ST. Not winning the margins.

We confuse winning the margins (execution) with ball control, the latter of which we can’t coach/develop/recruit well. Manning has no feel how to call these types of games, and the players not best suited for them.

Our passing game lacks nuance needed to manufacture space and separation. Nuance is preparation, so start with practicing what you’re good at, rather than some half-ass ball control **** for the first 7 quarters of the season . That’s one reason why October is usually better, we’ve gotten timing down after being forced to actually play, rather than pillow fight. Of course this is assuming Manning is good enough at play sequence (not just what plays are called in a game), which I have my doubts

We have not had a good punt return unit for many years under this staff. Conceding yards, but also blunders (2019 Iowa says hi).

assuming Manning cant be upgraded midseason (and it isn’t actually a CMC issue), start with moving Purdy around more.Roll outs with run option threats. Limit the field he needs to read, give the defense more looks, reduce importance of timing and arm strength.

Play Dekkers, at first like Lanning, then more when the defense justifies it. Work in more two back sets and motion.

Bolded is the truth. Purdy's strength is not sitting back and picking teams apart and that's been evident since his first game.

 

[Gunnerclone]

It’s not just 4 turnovers vs 0. All 4 turnovers were on the ISU side of the field.

Turnover #1: Iowa starts on ISU 49 yard line (Iowa goes 49 yards for TD)
Turnover #2: fumble return for TD
Turnover #3: Iowa starts on ISU 25 (field goal)
Turnover #4: Iowa starts on ISU 22 (field goal)

You won’t win any games with these types of turnovers.

You won’t win any games with any 2 of those turnovers. 4 is a major problem. And in a huge game at home? Makes me worried about the mental state of the team. Shitting their pants in the first two games of the season isn’t good. Eventually you prove the “improve throughout the season” narrative wrong. Iowa knows all about it.

We’re not far from the regression phase then the Campbell 2.0 phase.

 

[madguy30]

You won’t win any games with any 2 of those turnovers. 4 is a major problem. And in a huge game at home? Makes me worried about the mental state of the team. Shitting their pants in the first two games of the season isn’t good. Eventually you prove the “improve throughout the season” narrative wrong. Iowa knows all about it.

We’re not far from the regression phase then the Campbell 2.0 phase.

When they get to the Okie State game and we see a repeat of the last two years that's more evidence of a real mental block.

Like acting ready or prepared instead of being ready where you just psych yourself out to being worse.