Do they even have an actual sports journalist there anymore? 99% is buzzfeed meets tmz stuff
The Deion Sanders thread
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Like I've said all along, the ROI is getting the kid onto the roster. MOST NIL deals will not result in the use of name, image, or likeness.
Almost everyone there is comedy or gambling. It's not supposed to be a serious sports journalism site.
Well for 1 I think that guy is scum so I am not a fan of him directing anything
The ROI is the winning I'm speaking of.
If the player fizzles out and doesn't make the field, or bolts to another university, then there are NIL deals in conflict, more and more lawyers. It will be ugly, there will be NIL cautionary tales, and smaller universities will have to adapt and or be negatively impacted, but some sort of regulation will arise.
Until the next new unregulated means of exerting monetary influence springs up, rinse repeat.
Never respected the guy much, but thought even differently bout him once I saw him walk.
I don't know that the NBA really corrected itself through market forces, rather by changed league policy that forced 18 year olds to have one proving ground year somewhere other than the NBA. That big bodied KU center sticks out in my mind particularly, went from a top 3 HS player labeled as one and done lottery pick to a guy who never sniffed the NBA, all because of that rule change.
A free market probably would have kept throwing all of its money at high school kids.
There was some realization that the team drafting the HS kids, even if they became all stars, really didn't benefit because of the short rookie contract. The team signing their second contract got the budding All Star when a hs kid wasn't a flop. That can help the 'haves', but it is an artificial restriction on the market that limits the bad risk teams will put on hs kids or even one and done college kids.
If there were no market restrictions and no rookie contract rules you'd see teams throwing 100-200 million at high school kids for 6-7 year deals hoping they get LeBron even if they take a few years to develop.
People have said that about the kid?
Prime ultimately getting funds from a gambling company and having one their assets pay a recruit is a little gross.
Your example is poor. What is gross or sleazy is marketing being more fundamental in CFB than football. Any industry that facilitates market participants to benefit more from marketing over what the industry’s consumers want is gross and not sustainable
When the number one ranked recruit, the one in question, is also a CB, it has to make an even more compelling case.
I guess I could've worded my original statement differently. I see what you're speaking of "regulatory responses" as part of the "market process". Wasn't trying to say that unregulated markets would solve the problem.
Rthat as things continue to spiral, and things get worse (ie litigation against formerly considered amateur athletes) I believe something will arise that will aim to regulate and bring some structure.
Fair point but I'd presume that if there were non-compete type clauses in the contracts the player wouldn't have much recourse.
It's all delicious irony. The kids can finally get paid...by a rich AD that will exploit them.
Barstool sports started as a fantasy football site. It allowed gambling ads at the time. ITs really digital media. Calling them a gambling site is super disingenuous.
You did find your acorn though. Calling college football an industry. As much as we wanted it not to be it is, and marketing may be the most important aspect to success in any free market industry. ISU should take note.
That’s a fairy tale imo.
It is no different than a coach not working out. NIL is nothing compared to the old way of “buying” players and wins. It’s risk reduction per dollar spent from the booster side. It won’t be ugly, you’re still applying your value mindset. Conspicuous consumption isn’t about that. Player doesn’t workout? Sunk cost and just means you buy another one. 100k for a player is enough to change the sport as we know it, not worth getting lawyers involved when it’s already just a **** measuring contest. Cheaper than another $2 million upgrade to the locker room
Yeah i definitely agree market + regulation will correct some.
I think just market alone would have been pretty bad for the NBA. Hopefully NCAA realizes they have some tools to regulate this. Probably not possible for "everyone to win" but with decent regulation they could avoid destroying the golden goose.
Given the egos handing out this money, with it above the board now, I have no doubt there will be incidents where a booster public dresses down a player because he didn't win a big game.
LOL. It is not accurate, or genuine, to say I called Barstool a gambling site. Do better, please.
Prime ultimately getting funds from a gambling company and having one their assets pay a recruit is a little gross.
Barstool is one of Penn's assets, 30% to 40% stake if I recall. I get you as a CFB fan have the non-corporate, last century collegial mindset going. In any other industry that amount of potential conflict of interest is a little gross, as I said, if not illicit.
As far as NIL goes, this is the one thing where it CAN help a non-blue blood like Iowa State. Say we can't get a bunch of spread out money for a whole class of kids, but maybe we can sink it all in on a top-5 QB. That player may never have looked at Iowa State in the past, but perhaps our single pool of money (yes it's not from the school I know, but we all know how this is going on behind closed doors) from donors can be enough to trump the big dogs and get him here to Ames.
This just happened with this Jackson State situation we are talking about. I know Deion Sanders helps, and we don't have him. But Campbell and co. have already been shown to be able to develop players, so he can always do that. But being able to maybe get an elite player at QB or another high-impact position (defensive line) can completely change a team's ceiling.
This just happened with this Jackson State situation we are talking about. I know Deion Sanders helps, and we don't have him. But Campbell and co. have already been shown to be able to develop players, so he can always do that. But being able to maybe get an elite player at QB or another high-impact position (defensive line) can completely change a team's ceiling.
