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I mean, the way we play defense is not easy to prepare for, but if you are putting in the time against a defense you will play multiple times in conference.
All the scouting in the world isn't going to hide the limitations of this team offensively.
It's not optimism. Please read my post again. I don't think they will get the wins BUT that is not the same as the fact the path is still out there. Until 3-4 wins aren't even out there because there aren't enough games left, this team is still there with a chance. Might not be a good one, but their resume allowed them to be in this spot despite how awful the last two weeks have been.
I'm just saying that if other teams can have an advantage by scouting ISU that ISU has the same opportunity to scout the other teams. That works both ways.
TJ continuing to run action through Conditt 25-30 feet away from the basket is embarrassing. It doesn’t work. There has to be something else a college coaching staff can dream up to get some points. For example, whatever we did to score 40 in the first half.
We have had 6 different guys score more than 20 points this year. While far from an offensive juggernaut, you can’t tell me it’s purely a talent problem.
We have had 6 different guys score more than 20 points this year. While far from an offensive juggernaut, you can’t tell me it’s purely a talent problem.
No I just call out morons when I see them. Nothing you have said is fact. It's all your prediction. If you can re-read my post, which I get it you obviously cannot read. I said I DO NOT EXPECT THEM TO GET THE WINS. However, we are NOT mathematically out of this so it isn't over. If they somehow can find a spark and win even three more, I bet you they are in. Until there are not enough games left to even get the number of wins I think we need, it isn't over. That's just a fact.
Well, this team is crashing way harder than the team you are referring to, and with an impact transfer and the best recruit at ISU since Fizer. Let’s also keep in mind we are comparing it to a season led by a coach that failed, and that team managed to pull it together enough to win the B12 tourney, go 9-9 in conference and get a 6 seed.
Let’s also keep in mind Shayok averaged 8.9 ppg his last year at UVA. It’s not like rolled in as an all conference player. Lastly, that great recruiting class was Mostly built off having four commits. Avg player ranking that class was 5th out of 10 in the Big 12. Only THT (57) was highly ranked.
I would love to know if TJs said anything like that all year. He’s been happy with the effort sometimes. And he’s done the whole they need to play harder line several times. But I don’t know that he’s talked about himself.
Jeez people. Yeah it sucks but this team is cobbled together with bailing wire and bubble gum.
There's currently 1.5 P6 starters on this team. Hunter as talented as he is wouldn't start on another team with a passable upperclassmen point guard. Brockington is legit. The rest of these guys, bless them, are all 8 minute bench guys at best on decent P6 teams. I'm not going to hold this season against TJ (although there are some concerning things starting to happen). Not only did he not have a full recruiting cycle, but it had to be incredibly hard to get the guys he did to come to a team that just won TWO games.
There's currently 1.5 P6 starters on this team. Hunter as talented as he is wouldn't start on another team with a passable upperclassmen point guard. Brockington is legit. The rest of these guys, bless them, are all 8 minute bench guys at best on decent P6 teams. I'm not going to hold this season against TJ (although there are some concerning things starting to happen). Not only did he not have a full recruiting cycle, but it had to be incredibly hard to get the guys he did to come to a team that just won TWO games.
He's only gotten away with being so single handed is because he is so athletic - I can't imagine that will work in the NBA. Some coach along the way failed him by not forcing him to improve using his opposite hand.
I guess I don't think it was that impossible of a sell to offer a lot of minutes and big roles at the highest level of college basketball. I think the team definitely overperformed their talent level early, but think they're underperforming of late. There's quite a bit of P6 experience on this roster, and it's not even a young roster. We're now looking at another almost full-scale rebuild to get the talent necessary to compete on the offensive end next year, and that's even including Brockington staying. If he moves on, I almost hope they take a longer view approach, focusing on young talent with some potential to grow and give them the chance to.
Probably my biggest hang up in being smart with the ball. They get frantic and impatient. But maybe they really just can't handle all that well.
The single biggest impact of Prohm’s failure as a coach will not be leaving the cupboard bare for TJ or squandering what Fred built.
it will be the amount of bull $hit most of our fan base will be willing to accept from TJ. The next 5 years will be “at least he can win more than 2 games” as though that is somehow the f**king bar.
Everyone mark it down. This is exactly what is going to happen.
We will be sub 500 next year with IB gone. Imagine how terrible this offense will be without him. I also expect Enaruna to transfer. He’s clearly in TJs dog house for something. No one were bringing in is going to be a threat offensively. Pray to god we can land a decent transfer or two to give TJ a little more time to rebuild.
it will be the amount of bull $hit most of our fan base will be willing to accept from TJ. The next 5 years will be “at least he can win more than 2 games” as though that is somehow the f**king bar.
Everyone mark it down. This is exactly what is going to happen.
We will be sub 500 next year with IB gone. Imagine how terrible this offense will be without him. I also expect Enaruna to transfer. He’s clearly in TJs dog house for something. No one were bringing in is going to be a threat offensively. Pray to god we can land a decent transfer or two to give TJ a little more time to rebuild.
I think there's basically one player who's comfortable with the ball in their hands, and that's combining half-Hunter and half-Brockington right now. I hate to say it was overlooked putting the team together, as it wasn't an easy task, but my goodness basically everyone isn't comfortable with the ball actually in their hands. I think Brockington isn't necessarily bad with it, he just favors one side a lot, and think Hunter will get there. But it's very hard to watch sometimes.
The game today was literally lost by giving them easy buckets off a telegraphed initial pass setting up the offense. That happened at least 5 times in the 2nd half.
This is my biggest frustration. Gotta stop giving up 10+ points per game off of turnovers at the top of the key that lead to run-outs. Just throw it out of bounds or take a 5 seconds if you're going to do that.
10 years ago, a loss like this would have been ruined my weekend, not now. It's just a game, nothing more, nothing less. We blow a chance to have a feel-good story, but in the end, it really does not matter in the grand scheme of thing whether ISU wins or loses. It's just a game for our entertainment, I am sure the players and coaches are feeling a lot worst about this loss that I am.
2-22 to 16-9 is a hell of an improvement.
2-22 to 16-9 is a hell of an improvement.
And it's been a trend since December covered up by winning.
