POLL: How much will you contribute to the collective

Annual Contribution Amount

  • $0

    Votes: 196 50.8%
  • $50

    Votes: 22 5.7%
  • $100

    Votes: 68 17.6%
  • $250

    Votes: 40 10.4%
  • $500

    Votes: 32 8.3%
  • $1,00

    Votes: 10 2.6%
  • $5,000

    Votes: 7 1.8%
  • $10,000

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • $50,000

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • $100,000

    Votes: 9 2.3%

  • Total voters
    386

3TrueFans

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I'm also not planning on donating to a collective that pays Matt Campbell's salary, I kind of thought that's where the money goes when I buy tickets to games and merchandise.

I bet there's a decent number of people that would buy a Dekkers jersey with the some of the proceeds going to him.
 
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BCClone

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Not exactly sure.
Weird. Football coaches arranged jobs for anyone who wanted one during the off season in my day. I'll let Tony Afford know the summer job he arranged for me at Pella Windows in Story City was an NCAA Violation.
One of my bosses did it for wrestlers at another school. That crap cost me more time then just doing those stupid jobs myself.
 
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HFCS

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I pay taxes, buy licensed apparel, tickets, concessions, parking, etc.

Zero chance I’d contribute to buy a player. I’ll get flamed for this but don’t care—players get scholarships, training, travel, food, etc. NIL is a crappier version of pro sports and will ruin what made collage sports different and special. And for the crowd who says the players deserve to make what they can—I agree. Go get a job, go pro, sell cars, pan handle, do what we common folk do to make money. But I’ll never buy that the benefits they get aren’t worth their cost

The reality is we are top 30 or maybe even top 20 for people who will buy a ticket or travel and buy a ticket.

Old system or new system it’s beyond that where the “haves” are made.
 

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Never voted, kind of mixed on it.

The loyalty of "Once a Cyclone always a Cyclone" will lose it's luster.
I love to support guys like Niang, Hornacek, Purdy, Breece, etc, but these guys that are in 3 plus colleges for a 4 year degree, not so much.

It used to be a free college education and benefits were enough. At least for the full scholarship guys playing football and basketball. I am not even sure what is happening with the graduation rate of these athletes that are transferring about every year. Are they even graduating.
 
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Not a single cent goes to the athletes. You don’t have to like it but this is for the kids that have a special ability, put in time and effort to entertain us. But but scholarship and free food blah blah blah.

Curious if you paid for your own degree.

I get the idea that maybe 20-30 college athletes are national mega stars that have legit marketing power beyond the school brand…but the people who dismiss a debt free degree usually didn’t pay for one themselves. Usually didn’t go to school or mommy bought it.

Most college athletes only have big NIL value because of the logo on their jersey that alumni definitely paid for and often tax payers paid for as well.
 
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isufbcurt

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This is more in the "spirit" of NIL (or principle of it).

Edit: I misspelled principle as principal, and am now ashamed. But fixed :)

And this is the part of NIL I have no problem with, the players should be able to profit off stuff like this.

It's the "let's raise money and just give it to the players because they are players" I have a problem with.
 

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If it were a contractual type deal that locked them in for two years or something I'd be more inclined but for now not interested in paying for a teenager to maybe be at ISU for a season.
 
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I get what you are saying, but what I bolded in your post will dry up if we aren't competitive at all. That is reality.

This whole situation stinks, but I'll donate. I look at it this way... I'd rather my donated money directly help us win than upgrading the toilets in Hilton.
Not sure about this remark, I sat through plenty of lousy football over the years and still wore the gear proudly. We are not and will not get the 4 and 5 star talent that most of this money is going to be focused on. Zero going to any "collective" out of my pocket. I make a decent living, but I am not wealthy. If the next time I shoot a possum in the yard and "up from the ground, comes a bubbling crude" I may reconsider.
 

3TrueFans

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If it were a contractual type deal that locked them in for two years or something I'd be more inclined but for now not interested in paying for a teenager to maybe be at ISU for a season.
Even with that why should it be on the fans to pay what amounts to a salary?
 
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And this is the part of NIL I have no problem with, the players should be able to profit off stuff like this.

It's the "let's raise money and just give it to the players because they are players" I have a problem with.

And it’s exactly because the interest in team is intrinsically tied to the school brand.
How much NIL interest do Iowa Energy players who didn’t go to Iowa or ISU have? I guarantee they are better than the average major conference player and the answer is not much at all.

It’s probably an impossible situation because the whole enterprise of scholarship school associated athletics with a huge audience is pretty illogical.
 
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Not sure about this remark, I sat through plenty of lousy football over the years and still wore the gear proudly. We are not and will not get the 4 and 5 star talent that most of this money is going to be focused on. Zero going to any "collective" out of my pocket. I make a decent living, but I am not wealthy. If the next time I shoot a possum in the yard and "up from the ground, comes a bubbling crude" I may reconsider.
That is perfectly fine and I understand what you are saying.
 

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I think we would have better luck getting a very small amount from alot of people rather than asking for large amounts on top of what everyone already gives. If the amount of people that fill jack trice every sat gave .50 cents a day it would be 210,000 per week.
 

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Not exactly sure.
I think we would have better luck getting a very small amount from alot of people rather than asking for large amounts on top of what everyone already gives. If the amount of people that fill jack trice every sat gave .50 cents a day it would be 210,000 per week.
Good luck getting the opposing fans section of that to contribute
 

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Weird. Football coaches arranged jobs for anyone who wanted one during the off season in my day. I'll let Tony Afford know the summer job he arranged for me at Pella Windows in Story City was an NCAA Violation.
I was just always under the impression they couldn't. Just for the reason that the NCAA didn't want an athlete getting payed an extreme amount of money to stock shelves at the local mom and pop grocery store over a normal employee. An example would be a 5 Star PG making $500.00 an hour for working 10 hours a week.