Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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It’s okay, he never speaks ill about the BIG killing the PAC. He just wants to die with the world knowing it wasn’t the Big 12. The Pac only dies at the hands of its peers. He’ll continue to come up with another way to avoid writing about the fact a Big 18 is better for 6 pac schools than a Pac10, instead making it a Pac 10 vs B12 which isn’t the comparison
I dont think that is correct. The tier 3 ESPN+ deal did not include TX and OU, their deal was separate and paid separate. The deal gave the other 8, I believe $4M each.
How desperate will Miami and FSU be to get to BIG ASAP? They can’t risk waiting and no longer being valuable enough
A hypothetical- say the ACC GOR is actually prohibitive of schools leaving early. Which has more value, USF if in SEC next 14 years or FSU in ACC?
My guess is USF with the SEC brand and $800 million more than FSU surpasses FSU. Better location for recruiting. They could hire better staff.
A hypothetical- say the ACC GOR is actually prohibitive of schools leaving early. Which has more value, USF if in SEC next 14 years or FSU in ACC?
My guess is USF with the SEC brand and $800 million more than FSU surpasses FSU. Better location for recruiting. They could hire better staff.
Except the SEC is not going to Add USF just to add someone. It is not like they dont already have a Florida school. That would be like adding Georgia Southern, just because they cant get Georgia Tech. Or Rice because you cant get Texas Tech.
Well, USF and GSU are not that similar and the SEC wants a second FL team, preferably closer to population than Tallahassee. If not 3rd. Looks like BIG does too
But it’s a hypothetical. Care to answer? Which has more value after 14 years?
The point was, FSU and Miami snd the valuable ACC schools have huge motivation to get out ASAP or risk brand decay
Explain how Stew got murdered in this...? I mean I would love for it to be, I'm just not connecting the dots yet.
my prediction if McMurphy is right:
B1G adds Oregon, Washington, Cal, Stanford
Big 12 adds Arizona, ASU, Utah, Colorado
Mtn West adds Oregon State, Wazzu.
When the ACC GOR ends (or close enough):
B1G adds Miami, Florida State, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech (not that confident about the last pick)
SEC adds Virginia, UNC, Clemson, Louisville
Big 12 adds Pitt, NC State, Virginia Tech, Syracuse
Big East adds Duke (independent football)
American adds Boston College, Wake Forest
B1G adds Oregon, Washington, Cal, Stanford
Big 12 adds Arizona, ASU, Utah, Colorado
Mtn West adds Oregon State, Wazzu.
When the ACC GOR ends (or close enough):
B1G adds Miami, Florida State, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech (not that confident about the last pick)
SEC adds Virginia, UNC, Clemson, Louisville
Big 12 adds Pitt, NC State, Virginia Tech, Syracuse
Big East adds Duke (independent football)
American adds Boston College, Wake Forest
Stew’s been on tilt about how the Big 12 is weaker than the PAC-12 and yadda yadda yadda. This one comment where Warren named names just totally blew that up. There is no way that schools like CU, AZ, UT, ASU can sit around and just wait knowing that the B10 has OU, Wash, and Stanford in their radar.
He was working on the (flawed) premise that the P10 was stable even without the LA schools, and trying to make the B12 out as the “unstable”, ready to be poached conference. There was zero stability in the PAC after the LA schools announced (just like there was no stability in the B12 when Out announced, until the adds).
With this naming of names by the B10 it’s absolutely, 100% over for stew’s ****** hot takes. He done, i predict he will be on to some other crackhead ideas now and will sign off on this little episode with a “I said “probably” and “if” the whole time”. Dude just got owned by Kevin the CoVID season Warren lol.
And people wonder why I talk **** about the athletic. It’s pure elitist garbage when it come to NCAA coverage.
Ok, I follow, but by my interpretation of that tweet and the article, Warren did not name those schools, "sources" did, that could be anyone.
Agree.
But these jackssses just see the fact the big 10 will eventually come back for more PAC as a sign they’re stronger. Both ignoring that leftover realignment strength doesn’t favor conferences with looming departures and the fact two of those are more about the BIG wanting than it is value. The big 10 can afford to spend on nostalgia and bffs, the 3rd super conference can not
Stew isn’t just being emotional . He’s just not very knowledgeable on this
McMurphy isn’t MHver.
Warren isn’t going to name schools at the press conference. If you need Warren to go on record as to the next targets to believe it, good luck
I dont know I have read anywhere that the SEC "wants" a 2nd Florida team. I have read that they are interested in FSU. No one says that is because they are the Florida team in the ACC. It is because of the overall value of the program. I have also heard some speculation of Miami to the SEC, but that is purely speculation. But all is about the program value, not specifically about being a "second" Florida team.
I have heard people say that they may be adverse to adding FSU and Miami both with already having Florida, and I have heard that the 3 might not all want the others in the SEC.
These Conferences are adding for increasing value, and not for the prospect of building a program up to a future value either. Hypothetical or not.
B10 needs schools close to USC and UCLA so that makes Cal and Stanford more valuable in the B10 than they are in the P12.
I think you are close on most of this. I think on most of these one of each could be flipped or not.
GaTch, in the Big Ten could be UVA, UNC, or Duke instead But each of those 4 I think are a toss up as a last add to the B1G.
SEC I think, the last add would be Louisville, VaTch, NCSt, or Miami.
Big 12 I think will take Syracuse would be last choice, they would take Louisville, Miami, or Duke over them.
I think the Amercian gets BC, Wake and Syracuse.
Just to be 100% clear, warren mentioned future expansion is possible but didn’t name names. “Sources” named the schools which I have never heard Florida state mentioned once before
It solves a lot of things for the Big 10 to take Cal and Stan. Gives travel partners for USCLA, bridges the west coast from USCLA to ORWA. Appeases California govt, and BoR. Gives more content for Pacific, Just like the mountain schools gives more mountain content for the B12.
I am starting to think the comment Warren made about relationship with Yormark, was a hint that they are somewhat working towards what we are thinking. 4 more to B1G, 4 to Big 12. 2 left to MTW. But we will see.
He did say the University didn't need to be AAU so I am assuming he was talking about Iowa State as a future member.
Not shocked but the fact that North Carolina isn’t mentioned but Miami and FSU were is very odd for whoever this source is
