Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Cloneon

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I specifically raised the issue of bankruptcy and you said no, that wasn't a concern. So under what other circumstance would Disney be able to avoid their obligation to the Big 12 once they've made us an offer and signed a contract?
ESPN as a subsidiary is subject to spin-off. But as another 'insider' information poster stated, they're in the 'know' on this stuff. So, I'll just step back and wait and see. That said, there are 'levels' of bankruptcy which would allow ESPN to forego and eliminate some of their debt. So, again, we'll see.
 

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That is only in respect that everything in college sports is under the NCAA umbrella. If you want to go that route D3 is also together with P5...because they are part of NCAA.

It doesnt have to be a full break away from the NCAA, but it could be. The NCAA might not even exist in the future, at least not in the same way we currently know it.
If it is a full break away, they won’t play teams from outside their league. Otherwise, it is not a true break away, just an evolution of what we have today. You can’t have a true break away and still play others (by definition).
 
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Big 10, USC, UCLA off the hook, they are smiling today, they did all the damage and B12 gets blamed for trying to help save some of these programs by giving them a lifeline from the Midwest where people still like football. This is what we get for trying to be helpful.
And after the PAC stood there all smug and sure of themselves after OUT happened. Hey K-man, if you had half a brain you'd have seen this coming back then. We, pretty much to a person, did. You could have added KU, ISU, TTech and whichever other you'd wanted and been sitting pretty right now, dancing on the grave of the Big XII.

I hate what's happened/happening to CFB, but at this point I hope the PAC dies a slow and lingering death and we pick up any pieces that add to the financial future potential of the Big XII.
 

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Streaming companies are hitting a rough patch right now. For example Peacock is on life support. What impact does that have on the Pac 12, Big 12, even the Big 10 as they negotiate a TV rights deal? Just curious on what everybody thought.
 

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Granted a bias opinion but aren’t the all?


This article is probably one of the best data driven analysis of Big 12 v Pac 12 that we have seen this realignment cycle. Bradshaw (the author) did a lot to normalize the differences in the available viewer data for the two conferences, and would up with a comparison between the two conferences that to me seems very reasonable.

The chart below (pulled from the SicEm365 article) is basically a ranking of the H8+P10 by viewership, with a good amount of data normalizing to make as much of an apples-to-apples comparison as possible. What we end up with is: Oregon is the strongest, Kansas in the weakest, and just about every school in the middle has a comp in the other conference. ISU ends up 12th out of 18, which makes sense to me. Additionally, the new 4 for the Big 12 have numbers that are just below ISU over the same time frame, so I would expect them to all be middle of the pack after a few years in conference.

I do wish they had included values for the ACC as well just for further comparison, but that could be for the next step of analysis.

Edit: Wazzou has way stronger viewer numbers than I would have guessed, and would not be opposed to trying to add them over Cal or Arizona

0050890-yamh.jpg
 

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This article is probably one of the best data driven analysis of Big 12 v Pac 12 that we have seen this realignment cycle. Bradshaw (the author) did a lot to normalize the differences in the available viewer data for the two conferences, and would up with a comparison between the two conferences that to me seems very reasonable.

The chart below (pulled from the SicEm365 article) is basically a ranking of the H8+P10 by viewership, with a good amount of data normalizing to make as much of an apples-to-apples comparison as possible. What we end up with is: Oregon is the strongest, Kansas in the weakest, and just about every school in the middle has a comp in the other conference. ISU ends up 12th out of 18, which makes sense to me. Additionally, the new 4 for the Big 12 have numbers that are just below ISU over the same time frame, so I would expect them to all be middle of the pack after a few years in conference.

I do wish they had included values for the ACC as well just for further comparison, but that could be for the next step of analysis.

Edit: Wazzou has way stronger viewer numbers than I would have guessed, and would not be opposed to trying to add them over Cal or Arizona

0050890-yamh.jpg
I think Mike Leach and Gardner Minshew had a lot to do with the Wazzou numbers in recent history.
 

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This article is probably one of the best data driven analysis of Big 12 v Pac 12 that we have seen this realignment cycle. Bradshaw (the author) did a lot to normalize the differences in the available viewer data for the two conferences, and would up with a comparison between the two conferences that to me seems very reasonable.

The chart below (pulled from the SicEm365 article) is basically a ranking of the H8+P10 by viewership, with a good amount of data normalizing to make as much of an apples-to-apples comparison as possible. What we end up with is: Oregon is the strongest, Kansas in the weakest, and just about every school in the middle has a comp in the other conference. ISU ends up 12th out of 18, which makes sense to me. Additionally, the new 4 for the Big 12 have numbers that are just below ISU over the same time frame, so I would expect them to all be middle of the pack after a few years in conference.

I do wish they had included values for the ACC as well just for further comparison, but that could be for the next step of analysis.

Edit: Wazzou has way stronger viewer numbers than I would have guessed, and would not be opposed to trying to add them over Cal or Arizona

0050890-yamh.jpg

ISU TV viewership is only relevant from the CMC era to present. Similarly, Baylor should only be viewed thru lenses post Briles rape era.

Wash St is also only relevant since Leach left. Which I bet is awful
 

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