Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Die4Cy]

Has anyone broken down how many timeslots are in the football season across the existing linear channel providers (ESPN, ABC, FOX, NBC, and CBS)? From the BIG contract it seams like we can infer the going rate for each timeslot and infer how much money the ACC is leaving on the table and what would be left for BIGXII or PAC-10.

I don't know the answer to your question. But the B1G is being very shrewd in locking down as many over the air broadcasts as they have, given the realities of cable cord cutting. In an environment where many are looking at streaming platforms as the future, the B1G is doubling down on the broadest possible platforms to be seen and be paid.

 

[Clonedogg]

Has anyone broken down how many timeslots are in the football season across the existing linear channel providers (ESPN, ABC, FOX, NBC, and CBS)? From the BIG contract it seams like we can infer the going rate for each timeslot and infer how much money the ACC is leaving on the table and what would be left for BIGXII or PAC-10.

It would be hard to do until the Pac and Big12 deals are done with this round of negotiations, it would be a mix between old and new deals.

 

[timinatoria]

A lot of EIU fans call ND the Fainting Irish, because ND supposedly was faking injuries in a game with EIU that occurred in the 1950"s. I doubt any Iowa fan that is still alive was actually at the game and remembers seeing it. But they still do it today, pushing 75 years later.

Like I said, ‘fan hate/rivalry hate’ is one thing. Do you think the Iowa administration or athletic department still ‘hates’ Notre Dame over that??

 

[AuH2O]

Academics and the MBB brand of UCLA don't hurt. This is why I think UNC is an immediate add whenever they become viable. MBB doesn't pay the bills but bringing in those elite brands are worth the cost I'd think.

Big 10 fans are going to be shocked to turn on a game at Pauley vs UCLA and see the place like 60% full. They brought everybody back from a final four team and drew like 8300 per game. They will have one of the worst bball environments in the Big 10. USC will be duking it out with Northwestern as the worst bball crowds in the conference. Conference of champions has horrible basketball fans. It’s Arizona and a bunch of garbage environments.

 

[jctisu]

That’s not going to happen. ND likes their 3:30 est kickoffs with NBC and ABC will have the #1 SEC game on in that slot. ND will want that on OTA, not ESPN.

Not going to matter if ESPN offers way more than NBC can afford.

 

[jctisu]

The problem with your first statement is Notre Dame isn't going even open up for bids for football. They love that NBC exclusivity and NBC is more than willing to pay them what they need to stay where they are.

I know it's been mentioned, but there are tons of Big Ten games that are going to pop big ratings that CBS and NBC are going to be more than taken care of and they're going to get their fair share of Ohio State, Michigan, SC, Penn State anyway. Plus Wisconsin, Michigan State, Iowa, Nebraska, UCLA are all reliable ratings draws as is Northwestern when they're good. If Illinois could ever figure it out, they would be too.

We shall see won’t we?

 

[BCClone]

Not going to matter if ESPN offers way more than NBC can afford.

I think it’s going to have to be significant money for them to go from NBC to ESPN. I think ND wants to stay OTA.

 

[jctisu]

Not going to matter if ESPN offers way more than NBC can afford. Also ESPN can put the best SEC game in prime time. The SEC isn’t married to that 3:30 slot. That was just what CBS did. Prime time is still a big deal, especially if it’s Bama/LSU or something like that. ESPN owns the SEC so they could have the whole day of SEC games funnel in to promote that prime time slot. Much different situation than CBS having the one game.

 

[jctisu]

I think it’s going to have to be significant money for them to go from NBC to ESPN. I think ND wants to stay OTA.

I agree but Disney and ESPN have the money if they want to do it and put it on ABC. They just lost out on the Big Ten and are paying peanuts to the SEC now compared to what the Big Ten just got from Fox and co. so they could throw a fun wrench into things by going after that Notre Dame home slate. This is a battle between these networks, so don’t ever put it past any of them to try and F over the mother network.

 

[BCClone]

I agree but Disney and ESPN have the money if they want to do it and put it on ABC. They just lost out on the Big Ten and are paying peanuts to the SEC now compared to what the Big Ten just got from Fox and co. so they could throw a fun wrench into things by going after that Notre Dame home slate. This is a battle between these networks, so don’t ever put it past any of them to try and F over the mother network.

They are comparable to the big ten now. Nobody knows what the SECis getting with OuT when they join.

 

[jctisu]

They are comparable to the big ten now. Nobody knows what the SECis getting with OuT when they join.

ESPN is paying around $300M per year to the SEC. Yes we shall see what OuT gets the SEC but there’s no way those two schools are going to get ESPN to agree to tripling the amount for the SEC. They have a phenomenal deal with the ACC and now the SEC too comparatively.

CBS and NBC are around $350M per year to the Big Ten for a handful of games. No it’s not the same.

 

[Gonzo]

I agree but Disney and ESPN have the money if they want to do it and put it on ABC. They just lost out on the Big Ten and are paying peanuts to the SEC now compared to what the Big Ten just got from Fox and co. so they could throw a fun wrench into things by going after that Notre Dame home slate. This is a battle between these networks, so don’t ever put it past any of them to try and F over the mother network.

The SEC deal with ESPN is baffling. ESPN got exclusive rights to SEC football from 2024 to 2034 for $300 mill/year. Meanwhile, NBC and CBS are BOTH paying over $350 mill/year to the B1G for ONE game a week from 2023 to 2030. The SEC deal isn't in the same stratosphere as the B1G's deal. ESPN should have plenty of cash to play with.

 

[jctisu]

The SEC deal with ESPN is baffling. ESPN got exclusive rights to SEC football from 2024 to 2034 for $300 mill/year. Meanwhile, NBC and CBS are BOTH paying over $350 mill/year to the B1G for ONE game a week. ESPN should have plenty of cash to play with.

Bingo! That’s what I think is exactly what you are getting at. I could be wrong obviously but it sure feels like they have some ammo to play with here. The PAC and even the Big 12 talks will tell us a lot of what ESPN is planning.

 

[BCClone]

ESPN is paying around $300M per year to the SEC. Yes we shall see what OuT gets the SEC but there’s no way those two schools are going to get ESPN to agree to tripling the amount for the SEC. They have a phenomenal deal with the ACC and now the SEC too comparatively.

CBS and NBC are around $350M per year to the Big Ten for a handful of games. No it’s not the same.

They said the big ten contract stays the same for the first year, increases slightly for the second and when the LA schools show up for year three, then it jumps. The per school payout for the big ten and sec right now are pretty darn close.

 

[jctisu]

They said the big ten contract stays the same for the first year, increases slightly for the second and when the LA schools show up for year three, then it jumps. The per school payout for the big ten and sec right now are pretty darn close.

But that’s not what we are talking about. I’m talking about what each network is paying. Compared to what Fox, CBS and NBC are paying the Big Ten, ESPN absolutely fleeced the SEC with the deal they got and for three years longer.

 

[WhoISthis]

Bingo! That’s what I think is exactly what you are getting at. I could be wrong obviously but it sure feels like they have some ammo to play with here. The PAC and even the Big 12 talks will tell us a lot of what ESPN is planning.

They should have the ability to make major moves to protect their side of the board.

I don’t see espn letting FOX also add a Big 16 to their side, plus let ACC top brands decay for 14 years.

They have incentive to consolidate brands they already control so that they can pull viewership from the OTA of BIG, plus buy best of PAC and Big 12 with leftovers ACC into some wingman conference to SEC.

If BIG wants those schools, they’ll have to move soon.

And I still wouldn’t rule out ESPN actually funding the BIG to go past 20 and making a play for ND. I don’t think espn would have as much of an issue with a couple ACC schools and PAC schools going to Big 10 if they got rights and also able to add other ACC schools to SEC

 

[Gonzo]

Bingo! That’s what I think is exactly what you are getting at. I could be wrong obviously but it sure feels like they have some ammo to play with here. The PAC and even the Big 12 talks will tell us a lot of what ESPN is planning.

They do. I think ESPN was willing to spend upwards of $300 mill/year for B1G games, but B1G wanted more than $350 mill/year, so it didn't happen. They should have $$$ for Big 12 or Pac content as a result.

Meanwhile, B1G per team payouts leaving SEC per team payouts in the dust.

 

[jctisu]

They should have the ability to make major moves to protect their side of the board.

I don’t see espn letting FOX also add a Big 16 to their side, plus let ACC top brands decay for 14 years.

They have incentive to consolidate brands they already control so that they can pull viewership from the OTA of BIG, plus buy best of PAC and Big 12 with leftovers ACC into some wingman conference to SEC.

If BIG wants those schools, they’ll have to move soon.

And I still wouldn’t rule out ESPN actually funding the BIG to go past 20 and making a play for ND. I don’t think espn would have as much of an issue with a couple ACC schools and PAC schools going to Big 10 if they got rights and also able to add other ACC schools to SEC

I do really wish all of these behind the scenes conversations had to be made public (yes I know that’s not a thing) because it would be fascinating and eye opening to all of us what REALLY goes on behind closed doors.

 

[RustShack]

I don’t think the 300mill number is accurate. I think that’s just what they are paying for the slot CBS had.

BIG is getting 7 billion over 7 years, and SEC is getting 7 billion over ten years. It has not been announced yet what the additions of Texas and Oklahoma will do to that number, as it was finalized before the news of them switching conferences was leaked.

 

[Gonzo]

I don’t think the 300mill number is accurate. I think that’s just what they are paying for the slot CBS had.

BIG is getting 7 billion over 7 years, and SEC is getting 7 billion over ten years. It has not been announced yet what the additions of Texas and Oklahoma will do to that number, as it was finalized before the news of them switching conferences was leaked.

Lol, no. SEC's deal from ESPN is for $3 billion over 10 years.

SEC leaving CBS for ESPN in US$3bn deal from 2024 - SportsPro

Disney confirms exclusive rights to conference’s marquee football games for ten years.

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