Agree! Don't let the door his you on the arse on the way out OUT!
CFP Expanding to 12 Teams
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Giving G5 an auto bid almost seems less important now. It’s always made sense, but now all the Top G5 schools will be in P5 conferences, especially if the PAC adds a couple.
But I guess similar to the Big12, a new power house will(likely) emerge.
But I guess similar to the Big12, a new power house will(likely) emerge.
Perhaps then having KC as an alternate. But, ideally you'll have the conferences helping arrange that instead of leaving it up to the schools.
Or maybe you'll just have regionals like the NCAA tournament where the committee has 4 locations around the country and the 5-8 teams pick their location in order of seed.
Yep. After we gutted the AAC and the PAC does the same to the MW I think it'll be near impossible to be lower than 2 champs. Sun belt will be legit but the MAC and CUSA always suck and won't be close. Plus we'll likely beat the Pac 12 and compete with the ACC
Is ESPN still going to be picking the teams? With today's media makeup, I could easily see at least 5 of the 6 going to the SEC and Big10 many years. Maybe that changes with the Big10 moving away from ESPN, but there isn't any representation of other conferences on the CFB shows anymore. And you'd be kidding yourself if you don't think those shows matter.
So if I am Big10 & SEC the obvious question is there a way to maximize playoff teams?
Sure they could play 9 conference games and then a CCG and know the champ will get in and hope CCG loser plus 2-3 teams get at-large bids.
But are there other ways to maximizing league teams, especially in 16+ team conferences?
One idea would be eliminate your conference championship game. That way a loss in CCG doesn't drop a team out of 6 at large teams. A conference could name a champ based on W/L or ranking.
A 20 team SEC or Big10 conference could create 4 divisions of 5 teams, to position all the division champs as playoff worthy teams.
Sure they could play 9 conference games and then a CCG and know the champ will get in and hope CCG loser plus 2-3 teams get at-large bids.
But are there other ways to maximizing league teams, especially in 16+ team conferences?
One idea would be eliminate your conference championship game. That way a loss in CCG doesn't drop a team out of 6 at large teams. A conference could name a champ based on W/L or ranking.
A 20 team SEC or Big10 conference could create 4 divisions of 5 teams, to position all the division champs as playoff worthy teams.
The National Championship was crowned before Bowl Games until 1968. The NCAA didn’t count bowl stats towards personal or team totals until 2002.
Say the Pac adds SDSU and SMU and nothing else happens. It would make sense for Boise State and Memphis to be in the same conference. They could basically guarantee “win conference = playoff” if the top G5s banded together in that way and locked themselves into that #6 conference slot. Throw in other top G5s like Navy or Appalachian State.
We may see a big G5 realignment wave in response to this system
If anything it gives teams that stumble early but start playing good football late a chance to keep it going.
I like Utah last year against a lot of teams.
Thats an interesting consequence i hadn't thought of. It would be pretty damn wild if the G5 is the ones who make a super league
I wonder if this saves the PAC? Probable qualifier for sure. Good chance for the big 12 to get two if they go to 16.
Seems to me you’re better off having a bigger conference in this setup. As the SEC has been doing for years, if you don’t play each other in conference play, both the conference champ and the loser of that game can qualify. I would assume the Big 10 and SEC are going to have that automatically now…plus likely get one more. Getting to 16 or even 20 seems ideal now to have the Big 12 hopefully locked in for at least 2 as well.
There’s a lot more of a chance now. Win the Big 12 and you get in. There is a clearly defined path for ISU for the first time ever.
This isn't going to result in me personally watching any more college football. I'll treat it like the bowls - if there is a match up I'm particularly interested in I'll watch but I'm not going to watch just because it's a playoff game vs a bowl game.
And like March Madness, if we make the playoffs I'll watch games that have implications for ISU. Once ISU is out I'll probably be done till the next season. I'm a fan of ISU more than I'm a fan of any particular sport.
And like March Madness, if we make the playoffs I'll watch games that have implications for ISU. Once ISU is out I'll probably be done till the next season. I'm a fan of ISU more than I'm a fan of any particular sport.
The expanded playoff would not only give more G5 schools a chance to play in it, but it would allow them to gain more credibility if they can play in close games or win.
More chance for ISU for sure, but they've had a clearly defined path before- it was just harder to go down it than it would be with the new playoff. And even more so than with G5 teams, there is the opportunity to play in a close game and even win one. There will still be plenty of teams that won't get in the playoff so each game for them is still important for reaching a bowl game. There are some who will lose interest if their team can't make it to the playoff, but the way a lot of people follow college football, there could still be a lot of interest if a team still has a chance to make it to a bowl game.
And it's not just access to the playoff. It's the opportunity to pull off an upset even if that is unlikely. But they need to commit to not continuing to expand so that the regular season keeps enough significance so that people don't lose too much interest in those games.
Yeah, Cincinnati and UCF emerged from not being super strong G5 programs. On a limited basis, it makes sense to give schools like Colorado State a path to improve their program over the years and eventually be at the level of Cincinnati and UCF.
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I hear what you are saying and I mostly agree with what you said. I know there can be flaws in what I am saying and I'd like to hear what they might be.
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