Officiating at the end of the Iowa game

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Line is just a TV estimate/rendering anyway...the football itself is the official neutral zone, and the nose of the football was past the blue line.
And Anderson's hand was before the blue line.

Camera angle and blue line are misleading unless the angle is straight on. Just look at the blue line, it isn't at 90 degrees. He might have been off sides, but the blue line isn't proof.
 

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Iowa was holding entire play on all those last gasp plays.

If our defender was in the neutral zone then that’s something that should be flagged in 80-90% of all plays I’ve seen in college fb.

Watching the replay/highlights. It must have been 'line up in neutral zone' officially.

Agreed--I suppose it was close but nothing unusual.
 

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Horrible officiating there.

The fact it even was even a game at that point is frustrating. Another year in which we should have beaten Iowa by 2+ scores

Nothing changed from previous CMC game against Iowa, other than Iowa joining in with a few blunders of their own. One of these years perhaps we’ll not piss ourselves in this game
 

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How many times have we seen plays with <5 seconds to go when the sideline pours into the field thinking the game is over and the coach and officials usher everyone back with no incident?
Is the difference the time on the clock? It felt pretty chincy to call that there, especially after they picked up a flag.
The 20 yard penalty was the best output by Iowa’s offense all day.
 

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Watching the replay/highlights. It must have been 'line up in neutral zone' officially.

Agreed--I suppose it was close but nothing unusual.

I feel like players routinely have entire helmet over and never get called. It looked to me like he wasn’t at all.
 

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Best part was you could basically see the offical come over mouthing he had no idea what was going on. I can count on one hand the amount of 20 yard penalties I have seen in 20 years and your going to pull that in last 10 seconds of a game that was essentially over. Good riddance.

I really hope with Texas out and the conference getting more national we can change how we hire, train and evaluate officials.
 
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Iowa was holding entire play on all those last gasp plays.

If our defender was in the neutral zone then that’s something that should be flagged in 80-90% of all plays I’ve seen in college fb.
Exactly. First, I'm not convinced he's in the neutral zone, but even if he is by like 1 inch, it's kind of crazy that ends up being a 20 yard penalty and is called at that time in those circumstances.

And then they willfully ignore the obvious holding that they could have made calls for.
 

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Exactly. First, I'm not convinced he's in the neutral zone, but even if he is by like 1 inch, it's kind of crazy that ends up being a 20 yard penalty and is called at that time in those circumstances.

And then they willfully ignore the obvious holding that they could have made calls for.
It's not like the ref that threw the offside flag would have any idea that we'd recover a fumble and have players rush onto the field drawing another flag.
 

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PI vs no-PI is a lot different than unsportsmanlike for rushing the field. In the first, they discussed and said no penalty actually occurred. What you are asking is for them to say, “technically a penalty occurred, but the official only called it because he thought it was meaningless so we’re going to pick it up.” Big, big difference. Those unsportsmanlike penalties get called all of the time in situations like that at the end of a game. This is the first time I’ve ever seen one almost impact the game. But officials call it all of the time. And they can’t just pick a flag like that up.
That sideline penalty is not called “all of the time.” In fact it’s never called in that situation. The official who made that call should be suspended. You can’t make a call like that which could have changed the outcome of the game.
 

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If any of the KXNO shows has Bill Blank on this next week he needs to be called out for this. His responses in the comments are just as bad, he continues to double down that the refs gave ISU the game.

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It's not like the ref that threw the offside flag would have any idea that we'd recover a fumble and have players rush onto the field drawing another flag.

Do you think that was the only helmet one millimeter over the line the entire game?

It’s a super weird call given the time of the game and I’m positive I could probably find ten more obvious infractions from both teams that weren’t called all game.

On top of it on replay I don’t think he’s even in the neutral zone.
 

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Do you think that was the only helmet one millimeter over the line the entire game?

It’s a super weird call given the time of the game and I’m positive I could probably find ten more obvious infractions from both teams that weren’t called all game.

On top of it on replay I don’t think he’s even in the neutral zone.
Show me 20 of the 50 other times people were lined up in the neutral zone and I'll believe you.
 

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If any of the KXNO shows has Bill Blank on this next week he needs to be called out for this. His responses in the comments are just as bad, he continues to double down that the refs gave ISU the game.

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Seemed pretty bad.

Don't really understand picking up the PI flag vs. Hutchinson? Didn't look like we were offsides? Iowa OL holding?

Luckily we won the game anyway, but not sure what was going on there at the end.
I think the no call on Hutchinson was fine but the picking up flags after a live ref saw it and threw the flag on a subjective call like that is a problem. We all have nightmares of the K-state/Lazard game so needs to be more context when doing that.
 

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That sideline penalty is not called “all of the time.” In fact it’s never called in that situation. The official who made that call should be suspended. You can’t make a call like that which could have changed the outcome of the game.

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Show me 20 of the 50 other times people were lined up in the neutral zone and I'll believe you.

“Other”? You saw even this instance was clearly in neutral zone?

Many dozens of times every game players line up that close or closer including lots of times in this game with no flag.
 
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He wasn’t offsides and the sideline call was complete crap. The white hat had publicly announced fumble recovered by the defense. Kids were celebrating with their teammates. That gets called as often as “helping” which is to say never. That was dirty pool.
 
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I think the no call on Hutchinson was fine but the picking up flags after a live ref saw it and threw the flag on a subjective call like that is a problem. We all have nightmares of the K-state/Lazard game so needs to be more context when doing that.
I think Hutchinson was aggressively covered, and I could see it being called both ways. I agree I still have PTSD from that K-State game a few years ago, but it annoys me when there are subjective calls like that where the officials change their mind seemingly with no explanation.

That call by itself wasn't terrible, but the string of calls together at the end of the game (or lack thereof w/ regards to holding) made it feel like we had to win the game 3 times before the clock ran out.
 

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You saw even this instance was clearly in neutral zone?
I do think he was probably in the neutral zone based on where his left hand is, close enough that it's not obvious was wasn't offside.

Many dozens of times every game players line up that close or closer including lots of times in this game with no flag.
So show me them, that's what I'm saying. I'm sure a neutral zone infraction gets missed sometimes, I don't think it's "many dozen" or 50 in a game like you think it is.
 
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