Poll: ISU +16 vs Texas

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CyState85

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This is the type of game Iowa State wins in some weird way. I’m not saying an 8 TO game like the Nebraska game under Rhoads but for some reason, I think ISU pulls it out with quite a few breaks going our way.
 
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Unless we suddenly find an offense I’m afraid you are correct. Personally I think better play calling could turn it around but I’m no expert.

It might help but I don't know about turn it around. The problems seem multifaceted.
 
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atlantacyclone

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It might help but I don't know about turn it around. The problems seem multifaceted.

Yeah, I still think that Norton could really give us a boost. Maybe those are my rose colored glasses. We have the usual motion calls at key moments but I would say that two of the losses were due to extreme circumstances … which is sad because we really needed them.
 

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I just don't know how we can score, maybe a new wrinkle catches Texas sleeping, then the defense maybe scores...that's all I can think of

Defense could play really well and still give up 35

I think we are in for a big reality check tomorrow.
 

dirtyninety

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I'm watching Cedar Rapids Wash versus Oskaloosa right now on my local access cabel channel....the oskaloosa offense really reminds me of Iowa State. everybody stare at sideline for 12 seconds to get some genius Coach Fonzi Klein play, snap ball from the shot gun regardless of game situation or obvious player dynamics, lose two yards.
 
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cycophagus

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That is quite an achievement. Perhaps since we don't have the "tie" column anymore we could add a "close loss" column to the record as "CL". If you lose by 10 or fewer points it counts as a "CL".

Look how different the last three seasons are with this record system (W-L-CL):
2019: 7-1-5
2020: 9-1-2
2021: 7-0-6!!!!<<<<<<<Incredible, makes this season look like an astounding success.

Of course, we have to go back and mark other close loses from other seasons:
(W-L-T-CL)
1984: 2-4-2-3<<<<<<Look how this makes Jim Criner look. One of those CLs was at home to Oklahoma by a score of 12-10. I remember Cyclone fans in the 80s telling me how "amazing" it was to "almost" defeat Oklahoma. Go watch the remarkable offense in that game.



On second thought, don't watch it as it is very painful unless you desire to torment yourself.

The first ISU home night game, and the debut of Musco lighting, right? I think that was the only TV game in the 80s, too, wasn't it? The NCAA investigation caught up with us within the next couple of years, as I recall.
 
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clones2005

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We've scored an average of 10 points the last 2 games, against defenses that have been giving up plenty of points to other teams. Texas D has been playing well. I don't see us scoring more than 14 and doubt Texas scores less than 27.

Hope I'm wrong and the Cyclones shock us. But hard to see it from here.
 

cycophagus

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We've scored an average of 10 points the last 2 games, against defenses that have been giving up plenty of points to other teams. Texas D has been playing well. I don't see us scoring more than 14 and doubt Texas scores less than 27.

Hope I'm wrong and the Cyclones shock us. But hard to see it from here.
Its a bit of a trap for Texas. They are just coming off all the hoopla around the Red River Rivalry, which was a blowout win. It is naturaral to suffer a letdown following a game like that. And next week they face the best Big 12 team in the season's first half, Oklahoma State. Facing a team that is 0-3 in between those games is a trap condition. Its not on the road, not under the lights, but a trap nonetheless.
ISU will hold a lead in the 3rd quarter, before Texas gets a grip and pulls it out in the 4th.

UT 17 - ISU 13
 
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LtRaczack

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The first ISU home night game, and the debut of Musco lighting, right? I think that was the only TV game in the 80s, too, wasn't it? The NCAA investigation caught up with us within the next couple of years, as I recall.
Yes, it sure was and televised on ESPN. I remember Jim Criner was riding high starting 1986 from defeating Oklahoma State the previous season on a very cold November day. Things kept going back and forth with star players being in trouble with the law and the rumors of an investigation. The 1986 season started with yet another annihilation at the hands of the Hawkeyes, 43-7. That was the first Cyclone football game I watched on TV. I remember celebrating the one touchdown. That season progressed by beating some soft non-con opponents and the three bottom feeders of the Big 8 for one of three 6-5 finishes from 1980-1999. Criner was fired after the Nebraska game and the program took a nosedive.

Jim Walden actually managed to finish 6-5 in 1989 (the last winning season until 2000, thank you Dan McCarney). For reasons known only to Walden he installed the triple option making a once serviceable offense as one dimensional as the Boomer Sooner song. That culminated in the winless 1994 season and Troy Davis being the only aspect of excitement until Dan could assemble a football program from the ashes.
 
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Clonefan94

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I took the spread for Texas. If we score 20, we cover, 24 we might win. I see us scoring 9, on field goals early and the D can’t keep up and gets worn out. We score a cheap T D late and lose 16 to 38.
 

BMWallace

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That is quite an achievement. Perhaps since we don't have the "tie" column anymore we could add a "close loss" column to the record as "CL". If you lose by 10 or fewer points it counts as a "CL".

Look how different the last three seasons are with this record system (W-L-CL):
2019: 7-1-5
2020: 9-1-2
2021: 7-0-6!!!!<<<<<<<Incredible, makes this season look like an astounding success.

Of course, we have to go back and mark other close loses from other seasons:
(W-L-T-CL)
1984: 2-4-2-3<<<<<<Look how this makes Jim Criner look. One of those CLs was at home to Oklahoma by a score of 12-10. I remember Cyclone fans in the 80s telling me how "amazing" it was to "almost" defeat Oklahoma. Go watch the remarkable offense in that game.



On second thought, don't watch it as it is very painful unless you desire to torment yourself.

I posted this in another thread. If we look at coaching records and split out by score differential it is crazy how often ISU just wasn't even in the games before Campbell. Rhoads, Chizik, and McCarney all lost more than a third of their games by more than two scores.

While it's easy to be frustrated by all the close losses recently, those are happening because Campbell and staff have made this program consistently competitive.

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LtRaczack

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I posted this in another thread. If we look at coaching records and split out by score differential it is crazy how often ISU just wasn't even in the games before Campbell. Rhoads, Chizik, and McCarney all lost more than a third of their games by more than two scores.

While it's easy to be frustrated by all the close losses recently, those are happening because Campbell and staff have made this program consistently competitive.

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That is a great looking bar chart. The close loses do not frustrate me. I find watching the same plays called, the same execution and the same issues is tedious.

I would just like to see some improvement and a few different approaches attempted. Here is to hoping tomorrow contains that no matter what the score is at the end.
 

AppleCornCy

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That is quite an achievement. Perhaps since we don't have the "tie" column anymore we could add a "close loss" column to the record as "CL". If you lose by 10 or fewer points it counts as a "CL".

Look how different the last three seasons are with this record system (W-L-CL):
2019: 7-1-5
2020: 9-1-2
2021: 7-0-6!!!!<<<<<<<Incredible, makes this season look like an astounding success.

Of course, we have to go back and mark other close loses from other seasons:
(W-L-T-CL)
1984: 2-4-2-3<<<<<<Look how this makes Jim Criner look. One of those CLs was at home to Oklahoma by a score of 12-10. I remember Cyclone fans in the 80s telling me how "amazing" it was to "almost" defeat Oklahoma. Go watch the remarkable offense in that game.



On second thought, don't watch it as it is very painful unless you desire to torment yourself.

Just watched that first Oklahoma field goal around the 21 minute mark of the video. Are we sure he made that? Video quality wasn’t great but that looked a lot like Yelk against Alabama.
 
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