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I have no clue where the avoid seed oils things comes from, but I’m fairly positive that has been debunked.


Also, there is nothing wrong with eating pork or chicken, either. This seems like some of those extreme “health” people you see on tv basically saying you can never eat anything it will kill you.
Check back in 10 years.

By the way, I got to the 5th paragraph in the linked 2019 Harvard piece, where they confuse linolenic acid with linoleic acid. Clowns.
 
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Man, getting enough sleep is just critical. Otherwise we often treat tiredness with food (glucose) to wake us up.

Sleep gets a ton of press, but I feel like it still needs more press.
Does a good night of sleep have to mean 8 hours? I prefer getting 6. If I've been running a lot and my cardio is good I feel fine off of 5.
 

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Man, getting enough sleep is just critical. Otherwise we often treat tiredness with food (glucose) to wake us up.

Sleep gets a ton of press, but I feel like it still needs more press.
Yeah agreed. Recovery is so important. Whoever said they burn 1200 kcal in 90 minutes, you can't expect someone to just jump in and start doing that. Their fatigue will crush them. So for the majority or people, it's just about moving more and eating less than they do right now in a way that is sustainable for them over the long term.

I've been doing keto for about 2.5 years and for me it's been great. But some people can't give up breads and pastas and I get that. For me it just wasn't a big deal. I love to lift and hate to run, but others are the opposite. There is no magic bullet because everyone has different preferences and limitations.

It's also not some "personal failing" like lack of willpower or motivation. It's has to become part of a routine that doesn't require willpower or crazy motivation - if that's part of the equation, the mental/emotional load gets to be too much and the old habits return.
 

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Yeah agreed. Recovery is so important. Whoever said they burn 1200 kcal in 90 minutes, you can't expect someone to just jump in and start doing that. Their fatigue will crush them. So for the majority or people, it's just about moving more and eating less than they do right now in a way that is sustainable for them over the long term.

I've been doing keto for about 2.5 years and for me it's been great. But some people can't give up breads and pastas and I get that. For me it just wasn't a big deal. I love to lift and hate to run, but others are the opposite. There is no
magic bullet because everyone has different preferences and limitations.

It's also not some "personal failing" like lack of willpower or motivation. It's has to become part of a routine that doesn't require willpower or crazy motivation - if that's part of the equation, the mental/emotional load gets to be too much and the old habits return.
What is your lifting schedule?
 

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Does a good night of sleep have to mean 8 hours? I prefer getting 6. If I've been running a lot and my cardio is good I feel fine off of 5.
It's different from person to person and day to day. You need enough that you can mentally recover. If you aren't feeling run down and exhausted, you're probably fine. If you are, you probably need to either sleep more or reduce your waking workload (physical and/or mental).
 
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It's also not some "personal failing" like lack of willpower or motivation. It's has to become part of a routine that doesn't require willpower or crazy motivation - if that's part of the equation, the mental/emotional load gets to be too much and the old habits return.

Totally. With exercise, if you pick something you enjoy, it's a million times easier to keep at it, than if its something you hate. You like basketball? Play basketball. You like walking? Go walk. People trying to run when they hate running, eventually they just stop.
 

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What is your lifting schedule?
It had been 3X per week, but I did something to my knee and am taking some time off after trying to work through it for a month.

Powerlifting focus, so squat/bench/deadlift. Also do some overhead press and bent over rows, plus some bro arm stuff. So mostly compound movements, 3 to 4 warm up sets up to 3 working sets of 3 to 5 reps (6 to 8 sets total), trying to get within 1 or 2 reps of failure.
 

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It had been 3X per week, but I did something to my knee and am taking some time off after trying to work through it for a month.

Powerlifting focus, so squat/bench/deadlift. Also do some overhead press and bent over rows, plus some bro arm stuff. So mostly compound movements, 3 to 4 warm up sets up to 3 working sets of 3 to 5 reps (6 to 8 sets
total), trying to get within 1 or 2 reps of failure.
Injuries suck. I've got a bone spur in one of my shoulders I'm gonna have to fix soon. I usually lift thursday-sunday. I use Saturday for legs. I'm doing mostly 3x8's and 4x6's now. I don't burn out my legs anymore. I just don't recover like I use to. Hate having jelly legs till Thursday.
 

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Injuries suck. I've got a bone spur in one of my shoulders I'm gonna have to fix soon. I usually lift thursday-sunday. I use Saturday for legs. I'm doing mostly 3x8's and 4x6's now. I don't burn out my legs anymore. I just don't recover like I use to. Hate having jelly legs till Thursday.
Ya don't ignore it. My father cut his own Achilles with a bone spur he ignored for years.
 

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Injuries suck. I've got a bone spur in one of my shoulders I'm gonna have to fix soon. I usually lift thursday-sunday. I use Saturday for legs. I'm doing mostly 3x8's and 4x6's now. I don't burn out my legs anymore. I just don't recover like I use to. Hate having jelly legs till Thursday.
I should clarify that when I say I'm going "close to failure," I also consider bar speed. So if I'm trucking along and the bar suddenly slows way down, I'll call it there rather than grinding out 1-3 more reps. It really helps reduce the soreness. Plus I'm aiming for a weight that I'll hit for a max of 5 reps and taking 2 minutes between working sets, which means I'm not getting any lactic acid buildup.
 
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Just wanted to pipe in and say thanks for the thread - it prompted me to get back at it after a week off. Felt great to be out there again even though I'm still not 100%.

Normally I squat first and then bench. I was trying to just squat really light but the leg still bothered me enough that I couldn't bench comfortably. Last week I tried going straight to bench, and it just hurt too bad to lay down. Took a week off and was feeling better, so went straight to bench tonight. Went great. Did some other things and then did light rack pulls from just below the knees for lower body.

I'm very fortunate to live in a mild enough climate that a space heater allows me to have a garage gym and work out "late" when it's most convenient for me.
 

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