That makes way more sense. Glad I didn’t comment on Twitter without knowing these facts.
Do athletic departments and fans really lose patience for women’s bball when they are consistently making the post season though? Fran hasn’t made a single sweet 16 and it seems the fanbase is pretty much 50/50 on keep or fire.
I really want to roast this headline but I don’t pay for athletic and it wouldn’t be fair. I’ll do it here though.
Longevity made Iowa a winner? She made the post season 6 times before her first and only losing season.
Loyalty? She’s at Iowa. What other opportunities does she have that aren’t a lateral move? There is UCONN and maybe 1 or 2 that would be considered an upgrade.
Not denying she’s a great coach. Just seems like a bad thesis. I’d say it’s in state talent and the state of Iowa’s overall support for women’s athletics that make Iowa team’s successful.
She was a UCONN lean before Paige Bueckers committed there first. Geno was taking whichever one committed to UCONN first.
The history and support in comparison are better than Iowas over the last 10-15 years.Michigan State and Indiana are not upgrades from Iowa in WBB.
They would have to have someone out on her and she passes better than anyone else on the men's team.She'd have to adapt to the men's ball, but if she could I think she could absolutely play for the men's team at Iowa.
The speed of the men would shrink those passing lanes a lot on her.They would have to have someone out on her and she passes better than anyone else on the men's team.
Still have to guard her much further out or she is gonna shoot.Nah. MBB is called so differently from WBB, defenders are allowed to be way more physical than in WBB, she'd never be able to adapt, plus she's barely 6' tall, her shots would be getting blocked left and right.
Depending on who you ask in here she doesn't have that now but she made her first two sweet 16s and first elite 8 before Clark was there (first sweet 16 was also before Gustafson). But yes obviously that helps a lot. She still had to recruit her to Iowa which wasn't always easy with top in state players
They would have to have someone out on her and she passes better than anyone else on the men's team.
Just saying typically you don't need to be right up on someone that far out.You think she could get those passes or shots off against 6-2 to 6'11 male div 1 players who see passes like that every day? I don't think people realize the difference in size, speed, strength and quickness. What would be fun would be to magically put Clark's shooting touch, competitive drive, and basketball IQ into a 6'6-6'7ish male div 1 basketball player. That would be scary.
Michigan State and Indiana COMBINED - 27 NCAA tourneysThe history and support in comparison are better than Iowas over the last 10-15 years.
2012-2013 | #10 MSU / 6352 | #19 Iowa / 4567 | NR Indiana / 2157 |
2013-2014 | #7 MSU / 7145 | #22 Iowa / 4395 | #44 Indiana / 2723 |
2014-2015 | #10 MSU / 6119 | #14 Iowa / 5301 | #46 Indiana / 2617 |
2015-2016 | #7 MSU / 6561 | #20 Iowa / 4668 | #38 Indiana / 2894 |
2016-2017 | #8 MSU / 6011 | #19 Iowa / 4395 | #37 Indiana / 2955 |
2017-2018 | #10 MSU / 5689 | #13 Iowa / 5452 | #23 Indiana / 4102 |
2018-2019 | #9 Iowa / 6797 | #15 MSU / 5496 | #25 Indiana / 3920 |
2019-2020 | #10 Iowa / 7102 | #16 MSU / 5341 | #23 Indiana / 4025 |
2020-2021 | COVID | ||
2021-2022 | #5 Iowa / 8224 | #13 Indiana / 4726 | #23 MSU / 3676 |
2022-2023 | Iowa / 11142 | Indiana / 7348 | MSU / 3691 |
10 year average | Iowa / 6204 | MSU / 5608 | Indiana / 3746 |
I am not a fan of Dochterman, at all. I think he's just another Hawk hack beat writer. I dropped the Athlete because they dropped his **** into my feed as a Cyclone fan the subscription termination came after his CyHawk game preview filled with mocking of ISU that could have just as well been replaced by a transcript of a drunk tavernhawk. Now my NY Time subscription allows we to read the Athletic so I do, maybe an article a month at the most.
With the above said, this wasn't a bad article at all and actually pretty good considering Dochterman usual boot licking garbage. Not sure why he thought adding "loyalty" into the headline was a good take but the word is not used at all in the article but I guess Dochterman is still Dochterman even while writing a human interest story that's more of a biographical piece with anecdotes. Guess you could make the "loyalty" connection (based on the content of the article) with Jensen's loyalty to her, her loyalty to the state and her players loyalty to her or something along those lines. Longevity is legit since only a handful of P5 coaches have been at the same spot as long like she and Fennelly have. And there is the longevity in the state of Iowa, played HS in Marion, played college here and has coached her entire career within state, not even been an assistant anywhere else (hell, was never an assistant at all).
I think some of y'all are missing the point. Because Iowa was "patient" with Bluder maybe he is alluding that Iowa fans should be patient with Fran.It's because he's not drunk with stupidity about the womens program like he is about Fran ball.
Bluder has 850 career wins; the big question for her is, does she stick around long enough to get to 1000?If I'm Lisa Bluder, I would be asking CC if she plans on staying for 1 or 2 more years. When I get the answer I start making retirement plans. Bluder is 61 and will be 62 or 63 when CC leaves. It's never going to be any better than what it is with CC. Sounds like a great time to ride off into the sunset when CC leaves.
If I'm Lisa Bluder, I would be asking CC if she plans on staying for 1 or 2 more years. When I get the answer I start making retirement plans. Bluder is 61 and will be 62 or 63 when CC leaves. It's never going to be any better than what it is with CC. Sounds like a great time to ride off into the sunset when CC leaves.