Hydrogen is probably the answer for long haul trucking, off road equipment and shipping in my opinion, most personally use vehicles are going to be BEV long term. Hydrogen even though it's super abundant is really expensive to extract into a form that's useful to power a vehicle.I'm not a big fan of electric, and will probably avoid it as long as I can. My trip to visit family is just over 300 miles and the most frequent trip I make. The range doesn't work great for me there. I also don't trust the battery life or how they will hold their value. With all of the mining involved, it seems like a sham to me from an environmental standpoint.
Hydrogen fuel cells have always seemed like a better option to me. That could actually replace ICE vehicles, including for heavy industry/shipping needs. Is there something I'm missing here? I know that infrastructure isn't available either, but why waste time on electric when we could build up hydrogen?
They are driving big-ass SUVs/trucks now at this stage of their life then. People I know like to ride high, feel safer, and see their physical limitations for getting into cars.I disagree, I think a large % of mini van owners move away from them once they are done with that phase of life. They are incredibly useful when kids are young but eventually you don't want or need one.
I debated between 6-10 and 10+.
The cost will have to come down quite a bit before I do it, and if the cost of electric vehicles makes gas powered vehicles cheaper, I might keep sticking with it.
Essentially, I will always go for the cheapest mode of transportation. When electric gets to the point, I'll get to that point with electric.
I can get on board with that.For a city boy like me who doesn't want to spend $70,000 on a full size 4x4 truck that gets 20 mpg (if lucky) and doesn't even fit in my garage, I'd much rather spend $28,000 on a new Maverick hybrid that gets 50 mpg. It's awesome for commuting AND for trips to Home Depot.
I LOVE road trips and that's my biggest barrier right now, not the day-to-day. Basically if I can't make it to Deadwood without needing to stop for an extended period of time, I'm out.From personal experience, it does depend a lot on your living situation. We have a garage we can plug in (we also have access to a charger at work but that wouldn't really be necessary). For our day to day needs we now save time because we never need to go to a gas station or seperate charger with that vehicle. If we didn't have access to a charger either at home or work I'd probably want to be able to put a gas tanks worth of range (300 to 400 miles) in about 10 minutes at a dedicated charger (which is at least a few years into the future).
The OP should have had an acronym disclaimer on this thread.
Right.Iowa will be the among the last places because of how the government artificially lowers gas prices. EVs are already the cheaper option vs comparable ICE in places where “normal” gas prices are 4ish and spikes are up to 7.
Not criticizing consumers. It’s just reality that economics will drive the change. I don’t see EVs everywhere in socal because everybody is an environmentalist, it’s because we had almost a year of a $6.50 gas price surge and electric equivalent is $1.25.
Ford and GM are transitioning to be all/mostly electric. Will be very interesting to see how the infrastructure shapes up here in Michigan since we don’t have public transportation and every drives. Will be a very interesting decade.Honest question, but outside of EV focused manufacturers which ones are already almost all EV? Hell, Honda stopped producing their hybrid Civic. Which bothered me since I loved my '15 Civic hybrid and wanted to replace it with a newer model after it was totaled.
When the battery life allows us to travel from Manhattan, KS to the Alexandria, MN lake cottage 650-miles north without stopping.
Yes, the Postal Service wanted EVs long ago. Butttt.Right.
For me this is an economic decision. It's not about virtue signaling in any direction. I know a few conservatives who are vehemently against electric cars simply because it's associated with "liberals", and that's absolutely idiotic. I'll own an electric car the second it becomes my most economical option.
Stop for lunch at Minerva's in Sioux City and on to Alex.But do you really make that trip non stop anyway?