I doubt they stop for 45 minutes. I wouldn't stop for 45 minutes on a 650 mile drive.
When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?
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Depends on if you mean new vehicles for sale, or just vehicles on the road. I could see ICE making up 10% of vehicles on the road, but I think in 20-30 years you're going to be hard pressed to find new ICE models that are broadly available.
As it stands, 7 states (CA, MD, MA, NJ, NY, OR, WA) have mandated all new vehicles have to be EV/Zero Emission by 2035. Together, that's about 28% of the country's population. Maybe manufacturer's will still be able to produce ICE vehicles profitably even if they can only sell them in some parts of the country. More likely, I think it will be a replay of what happened when CA mandated better MPG/less emission in the 70s and 80s - manufacturer's fleets largely met CA standards and the new vehicles on the market that could not be sold in CA were few and far between after a few years.
I don't think ICE will be totally gone in 25 or even 50 years, but they'll be a very niche product, classic cars, or beaters.
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That's the other use case that is a pretty noticeable difference currently. If I'm going to Kansas City from the Des Moines metro it doesn't make much difference if I take our EV or gas car. If I'm going to Chicago or further I'd very likely take our gas car.
My wife charges at her office twice per week and we almost never have to charge at home outside that (I'm cheap and the chargers are free there if you're an employee). We haven't done anything at home other than the standard outlet that was already in the garage and if its plugged in from when we get home in the evening to the next morning it puts in about 35 miles of range which would cover our daily usage. If she got a different job I'll probably add 240v service to our garage.
Their best sellers are cab and chassis units used to build RV's, work trucks with unibodies on back or crane uses. I haven't seen many of those be electric and I have 3 large cab and chassis users very close to me.
Only stops i have made on the last few long drives that were longer (Nashville and San Antonio come to mind) were to fuel up. I guess I stopped in Waco on the way to SA because I figured I would be extra tired the next day if I didn't.
Never will. Hybrid vehicles seem more feasible though.
Agree if it's a destination drive there is one or 2 fuel stops, restroom break, and a meal in there somewhere.
My electric fuel mix in my convenient fueling station I own ranges between 75-100% renewable.
10+ years which will be when charging stations are ubiquitous and my 20yr old Camry is finally kaput.
Yeah if I was taking our EV on a 650 mile trip I'd probably stop twice for about 30 minutes each. Which is about 15 to 20 minutes longer each stop than how I'd do it in our gas car where those stops would be for food, fuel, and/or using the bathroom. When I was in my 20s I'd probably do that trip with a single 15 minute stop.
My wife has a Prius that is used almost exclusively for her work commute, I have a newer gas SUV that we use for longer road trips. When she's ready, we'll switch her Prius for an EV, likely at some point in the next 5 years.
I'm really excited for vehicle-to-home (V2H) functionality which should be much more common by that point. Then we can use the EV for whole home backup during power outages, even multiple days.
Ultimately the decision comes down to reducing total cost of ownership including fuel costs, and that is why EVs are going to take off in the next 10-15 years.
I'm really excited for vehicle-to-home (V2H) functionality which should be much more common by that point. Then we can use the EV for whole home backup during power outages, even multiple days.
Ultimately the decision comes down to reducing total cost of ownership including fuel costs, and that is why EVs are going to take off in the next 10-15 years.
I have childhood memories of riding in my dad's Buick Skylark in the Iowa winter, that was enough for me.
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Before getting an EV all anyone thinks about is range. Understandable but not entirely rational unless you drive 1000 miles a week.
After getting one you have the gas station equivalent of Netflix.
Before getting an EV all anyone thinks about is range. Understandable but not entirely rational unless you drive 1000 miles a week.
After getting one you have the gas station equivalent of Netflix.
Iowa EV owners, can someone say what their license cost each year? Had heard they were higher than the 1% sticker for gas vehicles.
Right? We just bought a minivan, and toyotas new models are hybrids, but the wait time is a year and cost 10k+ than the used models we were looking at. We needed a new vehicle. Not waiting a year for one.
Hopefully I never have to buy a new car.
I am intrigued by the premise of self driving cars and the idea of on demand car sharing. Most Americans spend less than an hour in their car a day, so from a resource utilization (rare metals, etc) why not utilize a car sharing service.
Getting back to the original poll, I hope to buy an electric car when I replace my impreza in 5-10 years. But I have my doubts. In 40 years of vehicle ownership I have never had a lease or loan payment over $300/month and never will. So I am probably going to own a GC engine car for the next 20-25 years.
I am intrigued by the premise of self driving cars and the idea of on demand car sharing. Most Americans spend less than an hour in their car a day, so from a resource utilization (rare metals, etc) why not utilize a car sharing service.
Getting back to the original poll, I hope to buy an electric car when I replace my impreza in 5-10 years. But I have my doubts. In 40 years of vehicle ownership I have never had a lease or loan payment over $300/month and never will. So I am probably going to own a GC engine car for the next 20-25 years.
My spouse went all electric in 2021 with a Chevy Bolt. She had a 2011 Ford Fiesta that got ~325 miles per tank, so dropping to 260 with the Chevy Bolt wasn't a big deal, since most of her miles were driving back and forth to work (15 miles round trip).
We now use her car as our primary car for commuting to work (we both work at the same place).
My only complaint is the recall on the converters that has meant we've had to limit our charging to 80% rather than 100%. It's been an issue a few times when we've both been traveling 100+ miles in the same weekend to different places.
I bought a hybrid in 2018 (2019 Honda Insight) when the VW folks bought back my TDI Golf. We use my car for long road trips, and with it's 45 to 50 mpg, it's pretty ideal for trips up to MN, WI, WV, NM, etc.
We now use her car as our primary car for commuting to work (we both work at the same place).
My only complaint is the recall on the converters that has meant we've had to limit our charging to 80% rather than 100%. It's been an issue a few times when we've both been traveling 100+ miles in the same weekend to different places.
I bought a hybrid in 2018 (2019 Honda Insight) when the VW folks bought back my TDI Golf. We use my car for long road trips, and with it's 45 to 50 mpg, it's pretty ideal for trips up to MN, WI, WV, NM, etc.
Nothing against electric cars but wake me when they self charge by solar or their own movement. At least partially?
They’ve always charged from breaking or driving downhill, hybrids and phev too.
I have one common drive where I drive on flat road about 15 miles, uphill about 15 miles, then recharge about 15- 20 miles of electric range going back downhill.
