When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 58 7.1%
  • In the next year

    Votes: 8 1.0%
  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 143 17.4%
  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 184 22.4%
  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 428 52.1%

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cmjh10

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I am supportive of the electrics, just not sure how it fits in for me in the near term. I generally buy used cars and it would seem that new is better for electric when you start to think battery life in a used one. Das Audi is a 2015 but it only has 33,000 miles on it. Lot of short hauls to LifeTime., grocery and wildlife preserves is my weekly year round routine. Still, it will be ten years old in 2 years which is sort of a shocker to me. Damn, time really does just freakin' fly! Post retirement me doesn't put the commute miles on anymore and hardly leaves the state by car. Throw in the option of driving the old Boxster during the summer and the main driver doesn't rack up many miles.


** Me in few years: FOR SALE. Nice mint Audi. Owned by little old man who didn't even drive to church on Sunday. Extra set of winter booties with their own OEM Audi rims.

Dibs
 
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beentherebefore

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The technology will have to make sense. Many earlier posts mention similar ideas.

The infrastructure has to be there. Frankly, it is possible that EV technology will not be the technology of transportation in 10 or 20 years. Something else may replace EVs as we know them today.

If EVs were lower in price than current gas vehicles (relative to inflation and such), and the cost of operating the vehicle was convenient, cheap, and clean, then I would consider it for a main vehicle. Currently, the idea that it takes hours to recharge in order to not threaten battery life is just not practical for most people who travel a lot.
 
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CloniesForLife

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It's less the aggregate time, but yeah, it's not that uncommon for me to travel 300+ miles one way in a 3-4 day window. I don't take long vacations, and given that I live 2 hours from a major airport, I rarely fly inside of 12-13 hours.

When I'm making those kind of drives, I'm banking on making the best time possible. Stopping for 45 minutes to charge, when I can fuel up and piss in about 5 minutes currently is a big deal when your free time is limited.
Aren't super chargers like 30 min charge time? And no way you can fill up and go in to the bathroom and be done in 5 minutes. Unless you're putting like 5 gallons of gas in. That time is definitely at least 10 min.
 

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Yeah, that's the confusing part for me. Free time is important to me too, but that's why I'd take the option that costs less of it. Maybe we just live very different lives? Personally the time saved at gas stations in my normal schedule would dwarf the 20 mins I save every 300-600 miles road trip I take.
I don't spend that much time filling up at gas stations. I farm and my daily driver is a farm vehicle that I fill up at the farm. My personal vehicle is the one my wife commutes with. Her commuting with an electric vehicle would make sense, but the vehicle she has is paid for and good for another 100K miles most likely.

For longer trips, I wouldn't want to rely on a vehicle that forces me to stop for 45 minutes at a time. That's why my brother has an electric for local commuting and a gas for distance driving.
 
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dmclone

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You know they do it when they do the oil change, unless you go to jiffy lube? The place I go, if I have to drop it off they give me a loaner.
Yes, the less the better. Not as big of deal now that I drive a boring SUV but I'm still not big into it.
 

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Aren't super chargers like 30 min charge time? And no way you can fill up and go in to the bathroom and be done in 5 minutes. Unless you're putting like 5 gallons of gas in. That time is definitely at least 10 min.
I start the pump, walk away, piss and come back. It's very easy to be in and out in 5 minutes.
 
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dmclone

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My wife and I probably average 5 times a year where we drive more than 300 miles in one day. This isn't near the top of my worries.
 

AllInForISU

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Question for people who have full EV, how would it hold up in the winter around here without a garage? That’s a major holdup for me, along with them not making a big enough vehicle to fit my whole family (10 people) that I have seen.
 

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Nothing against electric cars but wake me when they self charge by solar or their own movement. At least partially?
Most electrics and hybrids use regenerative braking to recover some power, but generating power while moving at speed or accelerating just doesn't work due to physics. That would basically be infinite energy.

As far as on-board solar, a typical sedan does not have near enough surface area for photovoltaics to produce the amount of power required for continuous operation. There is a reason solar cars are basically big flat solar panels over an ultra-light weight frame.
 

ISUAlum2002

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Aren't super chargers like 30 min charge time? And no way you can fill up and go in to the bathroom and be done in 5 minutes. Unless you're putting like 5 gallons of gas in. That time is definitely at least 10 min.
Less than that for the 250kw Superchargers. Usually about 20 minutes for me to go from 20% to 80%+ of charge. The 150kw stations would take probably about 30 minutes to do that, but all stations being built now are 250kw.

20 minutes is perfect for getting the fam out of the car, all getting done with restroom breaks and getting snacks or lunch/dinner/whatever. Car is ready to go by the time we get back out to it.
 

ISUAlum2002

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Question for people who have full EV, how would it hold up in the winter around here without a garage? That’s a major holdup for me, along with them not making a big enough vehicle to fit my whole family (10 people) that I have seen.
If you're able to keep it plugged in to help keep the battery warm, even into a 110v outlet, you'd be fine for sure. Even if you can't keep it plugged in I don't really see it being a problem. I've had my EV through 5 Iowa winters now and letting it sit outside at work for 10 hours it did fine and that's essentially the same thing as not garaging it.
 

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Hydrogen is probably the answer for long haul trucking, off road equipment and shipping in my opinion, most personally use vehicles are going to be BEV long term. Hydrogen even though it's super abundant is really expensive to extract into a form that's useful to power a vehicle.
Thank you and I agree 100% for trucking and heavy industry. Electric for those applications seems foolish to me. If we're using hydrogen for those applications, why couldn't we use them for personal vehicles? I guess EVs just seems like a stopgap measure, and we could avoid it if we put our resources into hydrogen. Unless people get on board with nuclear I I see EVs as minimally effective.

I have my biases. I love old cars, the smell of gasoline and exhaust. I have a 1969 Chevy K10 that is one of my favorite possessions. I hate seeing the end of that era. I'll probably get an EV as soon as it makes sense for me economically, but I'm going to grumble about it.
 
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Less than that for the 250kw Superchargers. Usually about 20 minutes for me to go from 20% to 80%+ of charge. The 150kw stations would take probably about 30 minutes to do that, but all stations being built now are 250kw.

20 minutes is perfect for getting the fam out of the car, all getting done with restroom breaks and getting snacks or lunch/dinner/whatever. Car is ready to go by the time we get back out to it.
That's kind of what I was thinking. Sure, in-town, stopping off at the gas station is usually a 5-10 min operation and we very, very rarely go inside the store. On a road trip, it's not often our stops are less than 15-20 minutes every 2-3 hours, and we don't have kids.
 

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