When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 58 7.1%
  • In the next year

    Votes: 8 1.0%
  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 143 17.4%
  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 184 22.4%
  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 428 52.1%

  • Total voters
    821

mramseyISU

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Nov 8, 2006
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Yeah I wish we had more PHEV options. Feels like it solves a lot of problems. The only problem with them is you don't get rid of all the maintenance like you can with an EV but I still think they're a great solution
In theory PHEVs are great but they're an extra $10k over the price of a regular hybrid because they need the same AC/DC converter and onboard charger of a BEV. Those inverters are also huge and hard to package. Other than that they're great and probably a really good intermediate set between ICE and BEV for most people.
 
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Saul_T

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It doesn't sound like this a big concern. The people that have went over 100k miles in Tesla's have reported losing between 5-10%. So if they were at 300 miles, they are now at 270-285 miles. And similar or less for the next 100k miles.
You've also had Tesla drop their prices several times in the last 2 years. That doesn't bode well for holding value.
 

dmclone

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Serious answer, can't go EV until I own a house. Want a 220V charger right in my garage first. That said, plug-in hybrids would perfectly fit my lifestyle and be doable now. Traditional hybrids would be an improvement as well as more of my regular driving has transitioned to city driving. As mentioned earlier, the Maverick Hybrid (albeit not plug-in) is very appealing to me. Does what I'd ever need it to do, would double my in town MPG and be similar or marginally better on the highway. A ~40 mi range plug-in (and preferably 4WD) version would be awesome.

I don't know why we spent the last 20+ years basically skipping traditional hybrids not named Prius. They're awesome. Tons of potential that we did nothing with until recently.
And the new Prius is pretty quick and a LOT LOT LOT better looking.

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jbclone10

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Apr 11, 2008
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My wife commutes a short enough distance where having an electric would be convenient for what she does, but the vehicle she drives is A) paid for and B) has plenty of life in it.

My brother lives in St Paul and bought a Chevy Bolt. He uses it for driving around the area when he doesn't have to haul his whole family. He has a gas SUV for hauling the kids and taking road trips. Seems to work well for them.

This is where I am as well. I have a car paid off with about 24k miles. I will drive it until its dead or explodes lol. Once that's done I'll look at an electric car. My wife has an SUV for any trips outside the city. An electric city driver would be just fine for me (work from home).
 

cydsho

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Most electrics and hybrids use regenerative braking to recover some power, but generating power while moving at speed or accelerating just doesn't work due to physics. That would basically be infinite energy.

As far as on-board solar, a typical sedan does not have near enough surface area for photovoltaics to produce the amount of power required for continuous operation. There is a reason solar cars are basically big flat solar panels over an ultra-light weight frame.
Which is why I said wake me when we can do this. :)
But seriously if we can recover some power, then is that enough to really stretch out the range in a meaningful way? Say you're range is 200 miles but if you drive continuously for 200 miles enough power was reclaimed to go 250?
If car manufacturers could increase that and give a "highway mileage" range maybe that would help people like me who probably won't buy because of range limitations. Tons of variables in that so maybe thats not possible to be that accurate.
 

dmclone

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I wonder if these price increases/decreases have anything to do with not having dealerships?
 

jdoggivjc

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Sep 27, 2006
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I have no idea. Probably when infrastructure widely supports it (it really doesn't currently) and it's more cost-efficient. I currently own a hybrid and am interested in PHEVs, but a pure electric vehicle? That's probably going to be awhile.
 

BMWallace

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I don't know why we spent the last 20+ years basically skipping traditional hybrids not named Prius. They're awesome. Tons of potential that we did nothing with until recently.
I feel like it stems from how the Prius and Prius owners acted and were portrayed when they first got popular in the 90s.

As one of the first widely available hybrids, a lot of eco-conscious consumers saw them as a political and lifestyle statement. There was a good amount of media that derided those people, like the South Park Prius episode. That in turn tamped down demand for hybrids from to more general populace and delayed their wider acceptance. It seemed like it wasn't till EVs started to gain more mainstream popularity that hybrids became more broadly desireable.
 
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Saul_T

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And somehow still manage to make more profit on every car they make than anyone else in the industry. It's crazy.
I don't doubt that, they've been known for their cheap build quality for awhile now. My point is resale value/depreciation. I'm certainly not anti-EV, I'd just rather the market become more stable for that kind of purchase.