Jamie Pollard on KXNO today

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Maybe the Art community should have stepped up to support it like the ISU athletic community supports athletics.
What do you know about the Arts community in Ames?
Also, do all University department support themselves and their buildings financially? Is that was a University is for?
Furthermore, the Arts are essential to the human experience. We don't need more bean counters.
 

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We played at Creighton a few years ago, and won, so I'm assuming they'll be giving us a return game in Hilton in the near future. That would be a great long term home and home type arrangement. Could develop into quite a rivalry. Two quality programs from two different conferences, but in close proximity.
That was a Big 12/Big East Challenge game.
 

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It would be an absolute shame for the University to lose an architecturally significant performance hall. But it's an age-old story: Arts being sacrificed at the altar of Athletics.
Probably a fair statement. Cytown is being created to fix this issue of deferred maintenance on CY, Scheman, and FT.
 

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FBS >>>> FCS

Also, Campbell is from Ohio. I believe that (and the desire to appeal to Ohio recruits) played a role in taking that game
I think our game with Ohio is a two for one.
 

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My biggest takeaway: 'student athletes and staff' mentioned twice regarding the gambling issue. First I've heard staff is involved. Did I miss something here?

I caught that too - I didn’t think there was staff at Iowa state mixed up in the gambling probe..wonder if it was just a general statement about training or if more shoes to drop.

I haven't listened to the interview yet, so I don't know the context in which it was said. But "staff" is broad enough that it could apply to athletic department staff, grad assistants, and even student managers. So I don't think we missed anything; I think it's probably just likely that whatever staff is involved isn't important enough to generate smoke or rumors.
 

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We should still be playing UNI and Drake. It’s weak for us and for Iowa not to play them. If there were fewer games like in football, then maybe. As a fan, I’ll take the slightly lower chance of going to NCAAs to see games I care about.
You say that until we are a bubble team with a Q3 loss from UNI in November. It sucks but there is no upside in playing Q3 and Q4 games given the March Madness selection process. Cupcakes and Q1 or Q2 games only


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  • Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
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I truly hope that happens. Pollard's opinion of the buildings does not inspire confidence, however.
To be clear, it's not speculation that Cytown money is intended to benefit the non-athletics Iowa State Center buildings. Pollard said that from the beginning.

When the project is complete, Pollard estimates it will generate approximately $200 million in revenue over 20 years, with $50 million dedicated to facility improvements at C.Y. Stephens Auditorium, Fisher Theater and Scheman. Each building has a significant deferred maintenance backlog; Stephens' currently is estimated at $25 million.
 

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To be clear, it's not speculation that Cytown money is intended to benefit the non-athletics Iowa State Center buildings. Pollard said that from the beginning.


$25 million in deferred maintenance on Stephens. How does that even happen? It's happened with other buildings on campus over the years, as well. Can someone explain why maintenance gets deferred until it becomes a major issue which requires a huge influx of investment?
 

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$25 million in deferred maintenance on Stephens. How does that even happen? It's happened with other buildings on campus over the years, as well. Can someone explain why maintenance gets deferred until it becomes a major issue which requires a huge influx of investment?
Because ISU doesn't have enough money to deal with it annually, pretty simple. You could argue part of it is due to growing too fast under Leath, but it mostly due to lack of legislature support for the 3 state universities. I'm sure Iowa and Uni have similar problems with their old buildings.
 

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Because ISU doesn't have enough money to deal with it annually, pretty simple. You could argue part of it is due to growing too fast under Leath, but it mostly due to lack of legislature support for the 3 state universities. I'm sure Iowa and Uni have similar problems with their old buildings.
If that isn't typical of a certain type of "governance", I'm not sure what is.
 
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$25 million in deferred maintenance on Stephens. How does that even happen? It's happened with other buildings on campus over the years, as well. Can someone explain why maintenance gets deferred until it becomes a major issue which requires a huge influx of investment?
Mismanagement from the president's office.
 

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Maybe the Art community should have stepped up to support it like the ISU athletic community supports athletics.

This is a weak variant of the "nobody pays to watch a chem lab" argument that people use to pit athletics against academics. It's so tired and lame.

Never ceases to amaze the number of people who could not care less if their own alma mater went away as long as the athletic teams remained.
 

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This is a weak variant of the "nobody pays to watch a chem lab" argument that people use to pit athletics against academics. It's so tired and lame.

Never ceases to amaze the number of people who could not care less if their own alma mater went away as long as the athletic teams remained.

I wouldn't go that far, but a building with deferred maintenance that was absolutely nothing special 30 years ago can make way for something more productive
 
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I have no issue on the architecture of CY and Hilton, they are basically buildings when the users are focused on watching an event.

But Scheman as an event/conference center needs to be demolished.
I have no issue on the architecture of CY and Hilton, they are basically buildings when the users are focused on watching an event.

But Scheman as an event/conference center needs to be demolished.
If Scheman can't be remodeled/repurposed in a more modern way, then, yes, there must be consideration to demolish and use the space differently. CY Stephens is iconic. It needs to be simply renovated.
 
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The impression I got from the Pollard interview about the buildings.... I think he likes the buildings, but wants to dress them up and give it an external WOW factor like you see with the bridge and JTS on the south side of the lots.

Glassing in the Hilton Concourses and using lights at night to illuminate it would look cool when driving on Lincoln Way. Not sure what external vision he has for CY Stephens and Scheman.

Would it make sense to raize Scheman and build a new one to connect Hilton to Stephens? Or would a full blown renovation be cheaper?
 

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$25 million in deferred maintenance on Stephens. How does that even happen? It's happened with other buildings on campus over the years, as well. Can someone explain why maintenance gets deferred until it becomes a major issue which requires a huge influx of investment?
The reason has to do with the decline in appropriations from the state legislature and one party in particular. Can't say any more or else this thread goes to the cave.
 
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The recent history is that the university kicked the can down the road on some ISC issues, and now it's in athletics' lap to figure it out. Stephens and Scheman aren't what they once were, and that's a harsh reality that a lot of people don't like to hear.
Stephens is a dump - threadbare carpet, bathrooms are missing urinals and just the pipe sticking out of the wall...
 

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