I think what people are reacting to, though, is that Campbell seems unwilling to change things that aren't working, especially on offense. I completely understand that this is not the QB he planned to start this season, or the running back. But this is the same bad offense he ran last year. If it didn't work last year, why is he running it with downgraded talent? If the talent isn't good enough to run it (if they weren't last year they certainly aren't good enough this year), why isn't he getting the talent that is good enough? And if he can't get talent that is good enough for the system, why doesn't he change the system? What are the answers to any of those?
Campbell’s Offense
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I think what people are reacting to, though, is that Campbell seems unwilling to change things that aren't working, especially on offense. I completely understand that this is not the QB he planned to start this season, or the running back. But this is the same bad offense he ran last year. If it didn't work last year, why is he running it with downgraded talent? If the talent isn't good enough to run it (if they weren't last year they certainly aren't good enough this year), why isn't he getting the talent that is good enough? And if he can't get talent that is good enough for the system, why doesn't he change the system? What are the answers to any of those?
I've said this for years. They at least shift less this year but it still seems pointless vs. what they do out of it.
I can't expect late 2000s Oklahoma type of tempo but the slow draw down of the clock between plays just seems to kill all momentum or rhythm in a drive. It's the football version of Prohm calling a time out after a dunk on a 6-0 run.
But they win 8 or 9 games every year. And beat their rival damn near every year.
Id be fine w this shite offense if they were 6-3 in conference and beat iowa every gd year.
Is it that much of a downgrade in talent? It's less experience but I'm not seeing a full step downgrade.
And hasn't ISU gone up in recruiting rankings/classes each year?
I might just be flat wrong but I'm seeing more potential on offense and am not ready to write off the season.
CMC and Heacock literally redesigned the defense mid season, because **** wasn’t working.
The offense has been obviously broken for 2+ years. But no changes are being made, in fact, you could argue that the broken parts are being doubled down on.
The offense has been obviously broken for 2+ years. But no changes are being made, in fact, you could argue that the broken parts are being doubled down on.
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This may change a bit going forward when they don't get everyone from big 10 west each season.
True. But KKirk will be gone by then.
Iowa will probably hire the next Bill Snyder to replace him.
Me too. I was calling for Prohm and Rhoads firing years before everyone else because it was clear it wasn’t going to work and most people would dumb, dislike, or disagree. Just maddening that people can’t see what’s staring them in the face. Campbell can still make this work if he overhauls his offense, however it’s clear he won’t. He needs to go now because if he isn’t changing the offense, his program is a sinking ship. It might already be sunk, but most won’t realize it until long after. It’s clear to me now that the staff changes were to help his buddies get the heat off them as everyone was calling for Manning and Meyers head last season. Nothing changed when it was the perfect time to change.
It's early, but check out the Big 12 offensive rankings.
We are last by a wide margin. Not good Bob:
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It's early, but check out the Big 12 offensive rankings.
We are last by a wide margin. Not good Bob:
2024 College Football Offense Total Team Stat Leaders - ESPN
ESPN is the place for NCAAF stats! Find a list of the Offense Total team stat leaders for the 2024 NCAAF Postseason.
That's pathetic... but it's exactly how CMC wants it. We can't open it up like every other team can do... that's not our game plan. We don't have the talent to do that... and we're just lucky to win a couple games every year at lowly ISU... it's nearly impossible to win here... according to our head coach anyway.
Do you want a coaching change?
And who would you like that will realistically come to ISU?
this reminds me of PR a bit, toward the end I think it was Lanning that threw a long pass to Lazard, he caught it and scored. PR came out and said the pass should never have been thrown because he was covered.
Just pure stubbornness to the point you are hurting the team demanding everything has to be your way with refusal to adapt.
Just pure stubbornness to the point you are hurting the team demanding everything has to be your way with refusal to adapt.
I'm really torn on it, but yes, I think a coaching change is probably needed if we don't get to 6 wins this season.
I haven't looked into it, but how many years are left on CMC's contract and how much would we owe him? I know JP can't afford to make a change if it will cost us too much, so maybe it's not even an option?
And I haven't researched who I would hire... that's not my job. I do remember back before KU hired Leipold that I thought he was going to be a good head coach. And no, I realize we can't get him now... I'm just saying that my thoughts on him seemed to have been correct.
I'm on record of saying MANY times on here that I didn't think ISU can do better than CMC, but that is changing pretty quickly.
I posted about this in another thread. It's maddening to hear about how they shifted mid-season to this defense and it was such a success and genius move but they continue to beat their head against the wall with this offense.
KU was 6-7(3-6) last year and he'll be turning 60 years old.
If we see this same **** offense without any improvement this year and have back to back top 10 defenses without a bowl I think I'll be pretty ready to move on. I think he gets at least next year regardless though
Agree 100%. I'm by no means a Campbell hater, but if anyone thinks Campbell at ISU is ever going to allow someone from the outside to take over the offense and change the way they play, prepare to be disappointed.
He would leave ISU so fast if he ever feels they aren't playing the brand of football he deems necessary/preferable. He's not particularly thrilled to have to hear about, let alone compromise with, anything outside the team cocoon he's built. been a little more visible the last couple years which have been frustrating for everyone. On one hand, it was inevitable because it's really the only distinguishing positive thing we have to sell to a coach at ISU. Patience and freedom.
Maybe it's just me, but he seems more bothered or frustrated that anyone else feels bothered or frustrated than anything else. I don't like it. I'd certainly like to believe that's not really true and maybe he just comes off that way unintentionally, but like CW has stated in the past this is when coaching tenures gets testy with the media/fans without a breakthrough or Renaissance. I know I'm not alone in that I have little desire to hear his postgame because i know what he's going to say, but there was a time I used to hang on every word.
Does it matter?
How could it possibly be any worse than what we are seeing now?
There are many coaches that would gladly take the ISU job.
One of them has earned the chance.
CMC has shown how stubborn he is, and there is no hope for change or improvement on the offensive side of the ball while he is coach.
None.
Teams with more talent know they can beat us.
Teams with similar talent know our obvious game plan and simply flip it on us.
What evidence can you point to that Campbell will adjust his philosophy?
