Campbell’s Offense

[joefrog]

Agree 100%. I'm by no means a Campbell hater, but if anyone thinks Campbell at ISU is ever going to allow someone from the outside to take over the offense and change the way they play, prepare to be disappointed.

He would leave ISU so fast if he ever feels they aren't playing the brand of football he deems necessary/preferable. He's not particularly thrilled to have to hear about, let alone compromise with, anything outside the team cocoon he's built. been a little more visible the last couple years which have been frustrating for everyone. On one hand, it was inevitable because it's really the only distinguishing positive thing we have to sell to a coach at ISU. Patience and freedom.

Maybe it's just me, but he seems more bothered or frustrated that anyone else feels bothered or frustrated than anything else. I don't like it. I'd certainly like to believe that's not really true and maybe he just comes off that way unintentionally, but like CW has stated in the past this is when coaching tenures gets testy with the media/fans without a breakthrough or Renaissance. I know I'm not alone in that I have little desire to hear his postgame because i know what he's going to say, but there was a time I used to hang on every word.

He wants to play Mt. Union style football without the obvious talent disparity it requires.

You cannot play an impose your will style of football with lesser talent/coaching in 2 out of 3 phases of the game.

CMC bristles at any questioning of the brilliance of the Mt. Union way because it works so well.

Nevermind it required NFL talent at the skill positions to fake it at ISU for a couple years.

Now?

 

[KidSilverhair]

Hey, the Peanuts gang watched the game yesterday and heard the Cyclone fans thinking Coach Campbell would surely come up with something different this time …



* Mistake on offense that gives points away? Check.
* Plodding offense that doesn’t take downfield shots? Check.
* Playing only to “keep it close” and have a shot at the end - a strategy that usually ensures your mistakes at crucial moments will cost you the game? Check.
* Using an offensive strategy that plays right into the hands of your opponent? Check.

Look, I like Coach Campbell, he’s done so much for the image of Iowa State football, his recruiting has been a big improvement, I like the attitude. I’m just tired of the CyHawk game … and many other games … being the same year in and year out. Playing only to keep it close, to be within striking distance at the end, to “win in the margins” I suppose can be a good strategy if you actually succeed in the margins. Losing the battle up front on 4th and 1 with the game on the line? Dropping 7 passes? Giving up another defensive touchdown? Playing to “keep it close“ then just results in boring football and one-score loss after one-score loss.

Somebody has to step up and make a play when it matters. Higgins’ TD catch was brilliant. The play up front on 4th and 1 was not (whatever you might think of the play call - personally I thought they needed to run on 3rd down instead). The opening drive was terrific. The FG unit was not (although tip the hat to Logan Lee, he stepped up and made the play for Iowa). The LB breakdown on Iowa’s 59-yard run was not. Becht’s decision on the Castro pick-six was not. Where do we find the guys who will step up consistently at big moments?

 

[Stormin]

I'm really torn on it, but yes, I think a coaching change is probably needed if we don't get to 6 wins this season.

I haven't looked into it, but how many years are left on CMC's contract and how much would we owe him? I know JP can't afford to make a change if it will cost us too much, so maybe it's not even an option?

And I haven't researched who I would hire... that's not my job. I do remember back before KU hired Leipold that I thought he was going to be a good head coach. And no, I realize we can't get him now... I'm just saying that my thoughts on him seemed to have been correct.

I'm on record of saying MANY times on here that I didn't think ISU can do better than CMC, but that is changing pretty quickly.

So Campbell must make a Bowl game this year or be fired? JFC

 

[clonedude]

CMC has a massive ego... like most coaches. He has a total disdain for all the media and fans. None of them know anything as far as CMC is concerned... you can tell that's how he feels. And he gets really upset if anyone questions anything he's doing.

A prime example was last week when someone questioned his special teams... and you could tell Matt was really ticked off and said that was simply a myth... and a total farce that we've had poor special teams. Which is a blatant lie. But you cannot question this guy at all. That's why he's so stubborn... he doesn't think he does anything wrong, and therefore will not re-evaluate how he does things. He will NEVER admit that his game plan sucks.... he will always say that we just need to execute it better.... which is putting all the blame on the players folks.

 

[sdclone]

I was pretty hopeful last week against UNI when I saw the whole offense come out with the wristbands on. I though sweet a whole new offense and the bands are to help with the new plays and formations etc. Well now I see that wasn’t the case for the wristbands.

 

[madguy30]

CMC has a massive ego... like most coaches. He has a total disdain for all the media and fans. None of them know anything as far as CMC is concerned... you can tell that's how he feels. And he gets really upset if anyone questions anything he's doing.

A prime example was last week when someone questioned his special teams... and you could tell Matt was really ticked off and said that was simply a myth... and a total farce that we've had poor special teams. Which is a blatant lie. But you cannot question this guy at all. That's why he's so stubborn... he doesn't think he does anything wrong, and therefore will not re-evaluate how he does things. He will NEVER admit that his game plan sucks.... he will always say that we just need to execute it better.... which is putting all the blame on the players folks.

A disdain for the fans?

 

[flycy]

It’s clear at this point the OC doesn’t matter. Campbell is running the show. I get it’s a freshman qb, but wow how stubborn can you be to constantly run the ball up the middle on first down thinking it will eventually work. If you don’t have the players, get creative and put them in winning positions. If KU can do it, why can’t we?

After 2 games with a new OC, youth at all the skill positions and line and this is clear? Kind of a stupid take isn't it?

 

[cyatheart]

He keeps saying it's so hard to win here, and I don't disagree. But it sounds really bad when he says it, and you don't need to make it harder than it already is, which in some cases he definitely does.

 

[ClonerJams]

I'd like to see Quaron Adams get a shot at slot. He has speed, and at this point do you trust Noel?

 

[clonedude]

A disdain for the fans?

As far as them knowing anything at all about the game of football. Only he knows. And don't question him on anything because you don't know s**t. That is exactly how he feels.

Nearly every ISU fan yesterday was booing Matt as he was wasting precious minute after minute on that final drive. Even John and Eric were wondering what he was doing? But Matt would say that nobody but him knows anything, so he would never admit that it took WAY too long.

 

[joefrog]

After 2 games with a new OC, youth at all the skill positions and line and this is clear? Kind of a stupid take isn't it?

Not at all.

Quite obvious the same philosophy remains.

Everybody knew what was coming on 4th and 1.

Did any of your listed excuses change that fact?

 

[madguy30]

As far as them knowing anything at all about the game of football. Only he knows. And don't question him on anything because you don't know s**t. That is exactly how he feels.

Nearly every ISU fan yesterday was booing Matt as he was wasting precious minute after minute on that final drive. Even John and Eric were wondering what he was doing? But Matt would say that nobody but him knows anything, so he would never admit that it took WAY too long.

How do you know any of this?

Even for you, you've gone off the cliff.

 

[joefrog]

As far as them knowing anything at all about the game of football. Only he knows. And don't question him on anything because you don't know s**t. That is exactly how he feels.

Nearly every ISU fan yesterday was booing Matt as he was wasting precious minute after minute on that final drive. Even John and Eric were wondering what he was doing? But Matt would say that nobody but him knows anything, so he would never admit that it took WAY too long.

The TV announcers were amazed at how much time we were intentionally wasting.

And if you are going to be as arrogant as Campbell is, you better make damn sure that your philosophy shows a greater chance for success than that of the fans in the stands.

I'm with the fans yesterday. Hawk fans have to still be laughing at how stupid Campbell played things.

 

[joefrog]

How do you know any of this?

Even for you, you've gone off the cliff.

Obvious things are obvious when watching bad calls over and over again, and listening to the arrogance and disdain under questioning at press conferences.

 

[clonedude]

How do you know any of this?

Even for you, you've gone off the cliff.

Have you not seen any of his press conferences. He just laughs at anyone questioning anything he does. He really talks down to them.

 

[Die4Cy]

I don't mind if the preferred style of play is slow or plodding. You can win a lot of games doing that. But you better not put yourself in a hole early and then use your own clock against you if you do. The new clock rules only make this worse.

 

[madguy30]

Have you not seen any of his press conferences. He just laughs at anyone questioning anything he does. He really talks down to them.

I don't watch in detail but I've never seen him laugh at someone after a question.

 

[heitclone]

Agree 100%. I'm by no means a Campbell hater, but if anyone thinks Campbell at ISU is ever going to allow someone from the outside to take over the offense and change the way they play, prepare to be disappointed.

He would leave ISU so fast if he ever feels they aren't playing the brand of football he deems necessary/preferable. He's not particularly thrilled to have to hear about, let alone compromise with, anything outside the team cocoon he's built. been a little more visible the last couple years which have been frustrating for everyone. On one hand, it was inevitable because it's really the only distinguishing positive thing we have to sell to a coach at ISU. Patience and freedom.

Maybe it's just me, but he seems more bothered or frustrated that anyone else feels bothered or frustrated than anything else. I don't like it. I'd certainly like to believe that's not really true and maybe he just comes off that way unintentionally, but like CW has stated in the past this is when coaching tenures gets testy with the media/fans without a breakthrough or Renaissance. I know I'm not alone in that I have little desire to hear his postgame because i know what he's going to say, but there was a time I used to hang on every word.

The off-season moves and his comments yesterday after game really show he knows he's bulletproof, especially with the gambling stuff coming out.

He downplays the Iowa game bc he knows he has been awful against Kirk and he knows he isn't changing anything to be more competitive.

 

[Stormin]

Does it matter?

How could it possibly be any worse than what we are seeing now?

There are many coaches that would gladly take the ISU job.

One of them has earned the chance.

CMC has shown how stubborn he is, and there is no hope for change or improvement on the offensive side of the ball while he is coach.

None.

Teams with more talent know they can beat us.

Teams with similar talent know our obvious game plan and simply flip it on us.

What evidence can you point to that Campbell will adjust his philosophy?

I have been a Cyclone fan for about 60 years. Longer if you count me as a legacy at birth. We have a new OC. New OL coach. Lost 5 players including the starting QB and RB due to gambling scandals.

I have seen Campbell fire his OC and OL coaches. And he hired a special teams coach. I am more hopeful for the rest of the season than I was before. Iowa has an elite defense. Their expected win total is between 9 and 10 games. We made a few mistakes. Move on. Learn from it. Improve.

 

[clonedude]

I don't watch in detail but I've never seen him laugh at someone after a question.

OMG... he does it all the time.

If an ISU fan can go watch Matt's entire press conference after the game yesterday and not come away being completely ticked off... I question if you're a true fan that cares about us winning games.

I know he's a professional at not answering any questions and lying about nearly everything in these press conferences... but at least show an ounce of giving a s**t about winning these games for once would be appreciated. He actually seemed quite happy yesterday.... was so happy about his team not giving up and getting that last TD drive. It wasn't about winning... never was it seems. He basically said he went into the game knowing we'd make mistakes and get behind, and he just wanted to see how we responded to that. And he liked what he saw there, so it was a 'win' in his mind.